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I have an extensive coin collection, including all pre-decimal coins from 1910-1964 (including 2 1930 (original - not fake) coins and 1923 half penny. The 1930 Austrlian pennies are in the VG range as well as an extensive range of old bank notes (both pre-decimal and old decimal paper notes, some star notes and consecutive order notes).
What would the current value of the 1930 Australian Pennies be (roughly)?
If I was to sell these (the whole collection), what would be the best method in doing so?
Thanks.
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If it is truly a 1930 Australian Penny
It would be worth between 3,000 & 100,000
If it is VG than it should fetch aprox 18,500 +/-
If you have one than Mate you can buy any other coins you want.
to sell the whole collection there are a number of dealers and auction houses in Australia that can help you out.
Let us know what your plans are and we will fix you up.
rggoodie
aka Richard
"catch em doing something right"
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Formerly nancyc
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Auction is the best way to go.
life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Hi. I am new to this forum and I have a question about the 1930 penny.Some would know me from the ebay boards I know there was 2 reverse die's used, would that explain the difference in the alignment of the A's in the word AUSTRALIA? On the first coin below the first A points at the denticle,the 2nd A points at the denticle and the last A points between the denticles.  Where as to me on this coin the 1st A points at the denticle,the 2nd A points between the denticles and the last A points between the denticles.  Edited to fix image codes - Sap |
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Sorry part of my post is missing,
The coin in the second picture,the 1st A points at the denticle,the 2nd A points between the denticles and the last A points between the denticles.
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Hi appleangel, and welcome to CCF. I'm an occasional poster over on ebay Australia, username numismatichemist.  I fixed your image codes for you; you just have to put the URL for the image itself in between [i mg] and [ /img] tags. Click on the "edit reply" button to the post of yours with the pics in it to see how it's done. As for answering your question, die varieties aren't really a field I know much about, but I do see what you mean about the direction the middle A is pointing to. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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I just spent 30 minutes typing a reply with links and lost it because this useless piece of @^%^# told me my user/password was wrong.
I am not going to waste another 30 minutes but will say that the first image looks genuine while the second one shows the last 2 A's and the I in AUSTRALIA pointing between the denticles and the L pointing at one. Going by this I would say it is a Calcutta "C" reverse and not the London "A" type it should be. This lead me to believe it is an altered 1916, 1917, 1918 or 1920 Penny, of which 1920 would be the suspect as it never had the I mintmark.
I would be getting it professionally inspected as the pic is not that clear. Cheers.
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Hi Sap, Thanks for the welcome and thanks to Rob for the info to get here,great to be here.
Thankyou for fixing those pics,i realise now I just have to copy the IMG code in photobucket instead of HTML.
I just noticed that the A in COMMONWEALTH has slightly different alignment as well.
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Hi Qld Sandy, The thing is that the 2nd picture is of a coin for sale on ebay for over 20k,I think someone may get burnt big time on this. |
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Welcome appleangel07 I enjoy your very interlectual posts on the greedbay AU discussion boards. Everyone here makes sense and they are here to help out not attack unlike ebay boards |
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Welcome appleangel07,
There was only one reverse die used on the 1930 pennies. They all have type A London reverse dies with 174 rim denticles. The easiest way to determine a London reverse die is to look at ALIA in Australia. The letters AL are aligned with the rim denticles, IA are aligned between the denticles.
Both the London and Indian obverse dies were used. On a London obverse, the upstroke leg of the N in 'OMN' points between the beads, the upstroke on the Indian obverse points at the bead.
The most common pairing is the Indian obverse/London reverse.
As QldSandy said, the second picture is a Calcutta reverse die, 179 denticles. Using ALIA again, the A is between the beads, L in line, and IA between. Therefore, it is a fake. As well, look at the shape of the 0 in 1930, it is more oval, where the 0 in the first picture is more round.
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Very good information to know on the reverse die!  I'll keep this filed away in the event someone asks me.  |
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Hi, Thanks Latman100 , Well I'm gobsmacked,Roxburys is offering that coin(on ebay) as genuine with a certificate of authenticity for $21,900 as well as a 23 halfpenny $2,900 which I also believe is a fake and it also comes with a certificate of authenticity. |
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Hmmm, having a look at the ebay item here http://cgi.ebay.com/1930-Penny-Clas...ne_W0QQitemZ310187964407QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Coins2?hash=item4838a4b7f7 I am still pretty convinced from the pictures supplied that this isn't the genuine article. I have tried to enlarge and sharpen the images supplied, but can't get much better than yours appleangel07. If I was selling a coin of this value, I would have very clear, large pictures. Anyone want to count the denticles? I have sent an email asking for larger, clearer pictures. Will let you know if I receive an answer. Edited by latman100
12/26/2009 7:26 pm
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Well, I enlarged the picture to at least make counting the denticles easier, and the denticle count is 174, indicating a London die. It really emphasizes the point that clear pictures are necessary to sell coins.
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