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Reverse & Flate Base Lettering On Pennies

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 Posted 12/13/2009  9:56 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add spg1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all. After expanding my collection, I am now looking for examples of "Curved" & "Flat" Base Lettering on the reverse of the Pennies from about 1918 (ish) to 1924 (ish).

However, does anyone know what qualifies the coin to have the curved base lettering? Do all the letters need to have it or just a few?

Some of my coins only have the last few letters of AUSTRALIA, others start from COMMONWEALTH, whilst some have the bases of the date curved, etc.

I found the detailed "Lettering" explanation on the Triton website ((http://www.triton.vg/lettering.html)), but it didn't really answer my question. Hope someone can.

Cheers Simon.
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 Posted 12/16/2009  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spg1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Interesting that no one knows anything about these coins....
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 Posted 12/16/2009  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Give it some time spg1. It is that time of year and I haven't seen much of the people who would know the answer to this question, but they will check in sooner or later. You may also want to ask the question in the variety section further down the page.

I do vaguely recall reading about this somewhere recently. It may even have been in one of the CAB magazines. I will have a look this weekend and see if I can find any info.
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 Posted 12/16/2009  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen something very similar to that on US Capped Bust half dollars. Those coins were struck from 1807-1836 and I believe the effect is attributed to die wear. However, those half dollars were not struck in a collar so that allowed more spread when the planchet was struck which in turn would accelerate die wear.
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 Posted 12/17/2009  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spg1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks Latman100. I figured Christmas would delay things a little.
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 Posted 12/17/2009  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QldSandy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your link doesn't work but hopefully the one below does.

http://www.triton.vg/lettering.html

I am collecting variety and error Pennies and have searched for examples of both lettering types. I remember seeing some writings on a train of thought that had an explanation for some of the flat/curved base lettering. It also had a model of how the metal flows into the legends of the die and if insufficient striking force was applied then the result was curving of the bases of the lettering. I would have thought it would also apply to the tops of the letters such as "T" but haven't seen any examples of that. That's not to say that the cause of some of the partially curved bases are not because of the above.

I do know that there are coins that seem to be in "limbo" ie; not falling into either category, so perhaps these are the result of the above process. Some Pennies clearly show a flat or a curved base and are easily to identify as such. I generally look at the "L's" first as they should show a distinct wave in the base if they are curved base letters. After you have looked through several thousand coins it becomes more easy. Cheers.
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 Posted 12/18/2009  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spg1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Cheers QldSandy. I find the matter perplexing. So far, I have been taking the base of the letters from "AUSTRALIA" to be my guide as well as the date.

Thanks Simon.
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