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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Anyone have any info on this coin? It appears to have the date over stamped and has a second rim around it. Have supplied pic of 2002 for comparison.   Steve  Edited by triggersmob 12/17/2009 6:06 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm not very familiar with this coin, but judging from the notch at the 2--I wonder if it's a doubled die? If you find other areas of notching, try posting a pic. I'll take another look, and maybe DL20K will give his opinion. 
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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Thanks for the reply DV. I have checked the rest of the coin and cannot find doubling anywhere else. The second ring is on the other side as well. If it was doubled you would expect the numbers to be all the same, but it looks like a 1 under the 2. Steve 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Maybe they used the leftover dies from 1000?  With extra rim and fancy style zeros, I think, it could be a special "millennial" issue. But then what is that 1 doing behind 2?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I doubt we're looking at an 2000/1999 overdate, but one would have to know how the hubs were dated to know for certain. I can only guess if they reused a 1999 master hub, the date would be ground away and 2000 added to the master die?  Just guesses here. There are overdates involving two hubs, but it usually involves the last digit--such as the Australia 1933/2 1d or the US 1942/1 dime. I asked about notching because there might be a doubled die on the 2, or it could be Machine Doubling.  I see something on all digits, but I'm just looking at one pic after all. The more detail, the better. When I study overdates, I'll shoot from several lighting angles to capture more details, such as this example:  A very typical appearance on a 2/1 overdate. I usually like to see the underlying digit protruding from the top or bottom to be certain. 
Edited by DVCollector 12/18/2009 12:37 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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Thanks for the additional info, DV. I'm not familiar with the term "notching", and it's not in the glossary. Can you please explain it to me. I will take some pics with different light angles and see if it shows any more details. Update: tried to take some better pics, but couldn't get anything better than what is already posted. Steve 
Edited by triggersmob 12/18/2009 9:36 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Steve, I found a good example of "notching" on a doubled die.  This happens two (or more) offset impressions on the die leave a visible gap in the devices (arrows). That's why I wondered about the 2 in the date on your coin. 
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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Thanks for the explaination DV. I don't think that is notching on the 2, I think it is just a ding. I'm still confused over this coin. It definitely looks like a 1 under the 2. Steve 
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Valued Member
United States
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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Interesting pics, Amnight. Let's hope someone can shed some light on these coins. Steve   
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Regarding the date area of the last coin posted--the "2000" The "doubling" is irregular, on the outer edges of the digits, towards the rim of the coin. Based on what I'm seeing, my guess is die wear.
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