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Mismatched Serial Numbers On Currency

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 Posted 01/14/2010  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brannenworks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wouldn't large serial number differences be MORE common rather than less? The idea is that when one of the tumblers breaks, it should create a very large number of mismatched serial numbers, but the vast majority of them would have large number differences.

On the other hand, maybe it could be that small numbers are more common because the tumblers lose a count instead of actually getting completely stopped.

Zeewool, I think there might be an optical illusion caused by the presence of the red bar. But it would be nice to see the note in the flesh.
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 Posted 01/14/2010  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To the rational human mind, they would, and yes, but highly complex machines seem to have minds of their own.
There are two independent (yet synchronized) sets of tumblers, each set containing 10 separate tumblers. There is a possibility of a malfunction on any individual tumbler, that may or may not transfer to the opposing set, depending on the specific problem. Most commonly, for a mismatch, 'failure to advance' (sticking of a tumbler) will be the culprit, but will not cause computerized auto shut down of the system unless the event persists for a preset repetition period. I am no a press technician, but from what I have gathered from viewing many notes of this type of error, is that 'normally', when a tumbler sticks, all subsequent numbers will also be thrown into a state of flux. This is strictly an assumption on my part however.



There are so many different malfunctions and and errors possible, it is mind boggling.
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 Posted 01/14/2010  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way, I have seen mismatches where only the prefix letters differ, or the suffix letters differ. Just about anything is possible with a few exceptions, and I thought I was seeing one of those exceptions earlier in this thread. My mistake.
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 Posted 01/14/2010  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Siuol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ zeewool I did misunderstand what you were saying. I thought you said that the number difference was impossible, however you were talking about something else. Sorry
@ oih82w8 I agree with you that it is strange the left serial advances only 3 numbers while the right serial advances much more. I would think that the left would remain stationary given that it is the same FRB, run, series, and position.
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You guys are just on a totally different wavelength from me, and I do not mean to say that your thinking is wrong. It is correct if you will remember a few things that I said earlier in this post.

TPGs can be wrong, so don't look at the TPG label, look at the note.

The two five dollar notes pictured are not both 1977A as the labels claim, (only one is 1977A). These two notes are not of the same run.
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 Posted 01/14/2010  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, once again, I am in error. They are of the same run. I was looking at a five and a two. I think that I had better stay away from this forum for quite a while until I can get a new monitor, glasses, and something for my head. Sorry everyone.
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Zeewool, I think there might be an optical illusion caused by the presence of the red bar. But it would be nice to see the note in the flesh.


I was thinking the same thing myself when I first saw zeewol's comment. The serials on the right side did look slightly larger when he pointed it out. But then I thought that it's an optical illusion because of the red bars.

Bobby (or others):
How are you enlarging the pics from ebay?

I'm using Firefox. I used to be able to save the pic & blow it up with a picture viewer. Then I started to use a Firefox plug-in called image zoom that would enlarge a pic by clicking on it with the left mouse button & scrolling the mouse wheel.

But lately this is not working at all on pics in ebay as they seem to have turned their pics into some kind of javascript. How are you enlarging them?
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