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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Could someone give me the specs on a SPAIN 1997 10 Euro Banknote Silver Crown Proof? Size in millimeters, weight, & silver content? Couldn't find it in any of my books. I was told this coin is in Unusual Coins. If the value is listed in a book, I'd appreciate knowing where to draw the line on the bid price. Thanks guys, Jen   Identified - moved to World Coins forum - SapEdited by traevin
01/01/2010 9:28 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Something is off there. As I am sure you know, "Spain" in Spanish is "Espana" with a ~ over the n. Also, the Euro coin was not around in 1997. The name "Euro" was decided during a conference in spain in 1995, but no Euro coins were made for half a decade after that.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Actually Espagne is a formal way of saying Spain, in French.(Sorry I forgot to mention the last part)  . I'm assuming that the different languages represent all the countries using the Euro. Edited by coins92
01/02/2010 4:44 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Not in European Spanish as far as I'm aware, however Espagne is the French word for Spain.
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 Australia
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As has been noted, it's an unofficial issue, made in the name of Spain but not actually in Spain, and most probably a part of a series of "pre-euro European banknotes" coins.
I couldn't see this one listed on NumisMaster under any of the logical searches (spain, Europa), so I don't think it's going to be listed in the "Unusual" catalogue. A search of "10 euro 1997" only showed the Greek "coin" from this series.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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Some kind of "promo" piece. The country name is in English (left), German (top) and French (right), and while "Europa" is Spanish, it is also Latin - so if this medal is part of some series, Latin could be considered a neutral language suitable for all pieces ... The design reminds me of the Belgian ECU coins; here http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/img10/18-166.jpg is an example. The Stars of Europe are oddly aligned on both pieces, and the font used for the "value" seems to be the same. Note however that the Belgian ECU pieces were legal tender coinage (though not actually used) with the country name in the three official languages. That does not apply to this medal. The earliest date you can find on actual euro coins is 1999. Cannot really tell what that thing between the word EUROPA and the 999 is. If that is the Brussels mintmark (see here http://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance...age12686.htm for example, bottom right - supposed to be the head of the archangel Michael), the medal was produced by the Belgian Mint. But it may well be a different symbol or logo ... Christian Edited by chrisild
01/02/2010 09:11 am
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Valued Member
Sweden
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Spain in Spanish is "Espaņa", on this coins it says Spain in English, German/Dutch and French.
This is probably a pre-Euro coin. The banknote on the coin is the old 1,000 Pesetas banknote.
"Europa" means Europe.
There is no 10 Euro coin in circulation.
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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"Spanien", as on that medal, is German. In Dutch it would be "Spanje" ... which does not really make any more sense in this case.  Christian |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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As said by a few above its one of the many 'peculiarity' coins issued before or at the kick off of the Euro. The below link is to a site selling 'British' Euros! They only want £75 for 9 worthless pieces of metal  http://www.eurocoins.co.uk/britain.htmlVery odd - its as crazy as issuing British $s or US £s! Unlikely its from any kind of official release but rather aimed at tourists. Iv'e seen loads of Chinese made British Euro coins - though I hesitate to call them coins as they have nil worth. Edited by bobbyhelmet
03/12/2010 2:40 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I'd like to have it for it's uniqueness. In my opinion very collectable and an interesting piece. Without knowing it's history, value, or the number produced I would not spend over US$20 on it. That way if I paid more than it's worth I could still sleep at night.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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Unlikely its from any kind of official release but rather aimed at tourists. Yep, such pieces have been "issued" in the name of lots of countries that do not have anything to do with the euro. Some are nicely designed, some are ho-hum. (See here http://ret001qm.eresmas.net/eu-ingle.htm for examples; hundreds of images though.) And I agree, they are aimed at tourists ... or at people who don't quite understand that such "pattern", "essai" etc. pieces are just medals. If anybody wants to collect them, fine with me of course, but they should know what they get ... Christian |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Wow Chrisild - I knew that a few had been produced but had no idea that it was so many. So many of those could be easily confused for the real thing!
Imagine the confusion these will cause with collectors in the next 50 or 100 years when they are traded around!
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03/12/2010 5:40 pm
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Valued Member
Sweden
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@chrisild: Yeah that's true, sorry! And I've even been studying Dutch, embarrassing! :b
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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No reason to be embarrassed. :) And yes, Bobby, those "pseudo-pieces" are confusing, or at least were in the first years of the euro cash. Unlike the medals depicted in the initial post here, these do not say "euro", and usually the size differs from that of the real pieces. I hope that in 50+ years people can simply consult catalogs or whatever will be used then, and easily find out that those are not official issues ...
Christian
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