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 Posted 01/03/2010  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wornslick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hope this works........Still not a good pic though.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v...262531473585
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 Posted 01/03/2010  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdh157 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One thing I found out awhile ago is that if you have interest in a specific coin by year or series, make sure you look at as many as you can before buying. There can be quite a difference in condition, even if the holders for several coins state the same grade. This works really well at coin chows where you usually have several dealers that can have the same date and denom of coin for sale. I have gotten so picky that I usually look at the coins with a loupe and I never buy an unslabbed coin sight unseen as there are a lot of defects that can not be seen by looking at a pic. Also, you can usually bargain with a dealer for a slightly better price, depending on the coin. Many try to be flexible, especially if they see that you are a serious buyer.

If you take your time you will get some really beautiful coins without breaking the bank.
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 Posted 01/03/2010  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wornslick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am still trying........

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 Posted 01/03/2010  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
from the pictures it looks like it may meet the XF grade (atleast from what I can see in the pictures) I have some Seated coins I thought didn't quite meet AU but when I asked people that specialize in the type they said they were a higher grade than what I first thought before studying them. Even though I am not an expert on this type I don't think $30.00 was all that bad for this coin even if you decide it was a mistake it still wouldn't be a big hit because you could probably sell it for atleast 2/3 what you paid and that is just if its determined to be inflated grade by a point or two and have problems, if its problem free and is in fact atleast a XF-40 I am sure you could make all your money back on the coin. I think you did ok even if it is a lesson learned because I sure would have been happy with a $30.00 mistake instead of the first lesson I learned when I first started buying coins, mine was a multiple of hundreds of dollars mistake. The mistakes you make now will assure you not to make the same ones in the future. The only big mistake I can see that you actually made was going by the grade they told you instead of actually checking out the coin yourself to make sure it was in fact that grade to you, because everyones grading standards are different and it is only an opinion or an educated guess
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 Posted 01/03/2010  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schmidty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Wornslick. Just some advice that may or may not work for you:

With my Epson scanner, the included software will locate the item you want to scan after you do a preview scan. First I hit "Preview". Then "Automatically locate the image". It creates a little box around the coin. You can drag the box bigger or smaller if needed. I then hit the "Scan" button, and it scans only the area inside that box instead of the entire bed. I understand that all scanners are different, but hopefully yours has this function.

Also, I have scanned at as high as 300dpi and had the image (barely) small enough in size to meet the posting requirements.

Hope I could help!
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 Posted 01/03/2010  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The biggest pics you've uploaded are 640x480 pixels. Your camera is capable of taking pics which are 2560x1920. These pics are nicely focused; if you were to shoot a 2560x1920 pic exactly the same as the two you posted, the coin would be over 500 pixels in size and easily gradable.
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 Posted 01/03/2010  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wornslick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have spent most of the day trying to get a pic clear enough to let you all grade this coin and seem to be getting a little frustrated. I hear what you are saying SuperDave but I don't know how to go about doing it. When I use the telephoto option I can get real close to the coin but the focus gets worse. I am going to try and find a Nikon forum and see if I can learn something there. I'll keep trying.

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 Posted 01/03/2010  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I used my zoom in my toolbar and it doesn't look like it's all that bad. The only thing I see that would be different in my case if I wanted this coin is that you say you spent $30.00 for it and that is the price on the 2X2. I always ask to look at a coin in a shop before I buy it. I get out my loupe and look it over and ask for a better price when I shop. Usually I get about 10% just for asking.
If you really can't stand the coin, sell it. Get better images and try selling it here.
If you lose 5 or 10 bucks on it, this is one very cheap lesson learned.
If the reverse is as good or better than the obverse. I think you did OK.
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 Posted 01/03/2010  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wornslick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks wheezydog, I have decided that I am going to keep the coin, the back is in a bit better shape than the front. You can see the corn very easy. I asked the owner about haggling on the price and he said no. The funny thing is I had my loupe in my pocket but when I saw XF my brain went numb. I like the coin and if I am happy then its all good, but I did learn a lesson. But I am not to happy with my camera. LOL

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 Posted 01/03/2010  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My opinion is that coin is probably worth about the $30 you paid from what I can see. Unless you are really unhappy with that coin, then you must make the decission on an attempted return.
However, consider this. You traveled about 20 miles to get that coin. You traveled about 20 miles to get back home. If you attempt to return it, you must travel another 20 miles to and another 20 miles back again. Now I don't know your means of transportation but the way I see it is you could end up spending more in transportation than that coin is worth.
I know to many $30 is a lot of money but regardless of your likes or dislikes of that coin, I suggest you consider this a $30 lesson. More if you add transportation.
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 Posted 01/03/2010  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wornslick - try going into your camera settings. There is a place in there where you can either set the resolution or the quality. You want the highest resolution it offers and/or the highest quality. Setting those as high as possible will give you the largest pictures to work with.

Also, the telephoto lens is a zoom lens, right? That one is for far-off objects and does not do well when focusing close up. If you don't have a specific macro lens, just put the regular lens on and go into camera settings again - set it on Macro (usually it has a flower icon). That will let you focus when the object is closer to the lens. It will also require you to be as still as possible, so use that timer while the camera is on the table or a tripod If you have anti-shake, set that to ON as well, sometimes that helps.
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 Posted 01/03/2010  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really don't think it's too bad. My opinion is similar to the others; at most it was a $10 mistake, which is much better than a $300 or $2000 mistake. I have had a few close calls with higher value coins, but because I made mistakes on lower value ones, I never have been burned out of hundreds of dollars. Unfortunately, many have.
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 Posted 01/06/2010  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jamez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure wish the biggest mistake I ever made in numismatics was $30.00.. : ) I think the coin is fine at 30 bucks here. Not a steal but certainly not a big loser either..

Anyone want to purchase a 1909SVDB that I bought back in the 70's.. : ( side note Added S mm...
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 Posted 01/06/2010  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Depends on what price you are selling it at.
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 Posted 01/06/2010  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here ya go wornslick

compare your coin to this EF Seated dime.

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and a slightly higher grade seated

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