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well this is my latest addition (that has arrived anyway) and was wondering what you all thought

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 Posted 01/04/2010  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add busthalf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bryan1315, This is a nice coin, I have been looking for a certified classic large cent that will fit my budget. I know that it is not certified but I am jellous none the less.
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That looks like a very expensive coin. My guess is AU55 and my concern would be the corrosion that's starting around "LIBERTY" and the "8" in the date.

Are you going to put a lubricant on it for preservation? Very nice piece!
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this was a major coin for the 7070 album and actually one of only 2 I had to layaway to be able to afford. I had one in my album before from my Grandfathers collection close to the same grade but when he dies my family started pitching a fit because he had given me all his coins and well I just gave them all to them to do what ever with just to keep the peace. It is very hard to find problem free Classic head Large cents in AU or better and when you do, you better be prepared to pay the price for it or you will not get it. I know there is a certified one on ebay right now that is kind of expensive and if I hadn't already had this one I was really thinking about purchasing that one

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Are you going to put a lubricant on it for preservation?

I have it soaking in virgin olive oil right now but I thought that was some red from the original color showing around those devices instead of corrosion. I definitely don't see any pitting on the coin anywhere
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It's a very beautiful coin.

I just started my 7070 collection last month. I hope that I will make a good progress this year. I noticed that you only have two holes on your album. I guess you will complete your 7070 this year. Keep us updated on your great achievement. needs to be posted.

I was thinking to crack my PCGS Oregon Trail half dollar (MS64) to fill a hole under commemorative half dollars. I am not sure it's a good idea to do this. However, I noticed that you cracked many slabs for your 7070.
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yes, I never have any problems cracking open slabs for this album (and some of the coins were in the thousands of dollars). If I was not familiar with the series I stuck with slabbed versions so I would atleast have an expert opinion of grade and authenticity. But if I bought it for the album once it arrived it was going in there whether it was in a slab when it arrived or not nor how much it cost

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I noticed that you only have two holes on your album

Yep 2 more holes and I can finally call this one done, that is unless I decide I just can't stand looking at a few of the coins that are in there now and upgrade them. there are a couple that kind of bother me when I look at them but they have sentimental value to me because they were given to me but once the album has every hole filled I may end up replacing those coins with better ones
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 Posted 01/04/2010  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a beauty, Without a doubt at least AU-55.
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Thank you for sharing me your experience and opinions, Bryan1315. It gives me some guidelines to work on my 7070. I think it makes sense for a new collector to buy the slabs and crack them to get the coins for the album. Thus,I will have a lower chance to buy fake coins.
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That is a terrific coin and an excellent addition to your type set! The Classic cents are really hard to find (and to afford!) in high grade. I'd call this one solid AU-50 and it retains a bit of original luster in the recesses. I'm not sure about its status regarding corrosion, but the scattered greenish spots (like at the T in CENT) should be a concern.

The olive oil treatment as I understand it can't hurt anything, but I wonder if a coin like this should be professionally conserved. Would NCS perhaps be able to treat the coin to stabilize the surfaces, and then have it graded in a no-problem NGC slab?
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the green spots is why I placed it in the olive oil. I looked at the one on ebay again and it looks allot worse then this one as far as verdigree green spots and its in a PCGS slab here is a link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MEWAX:IT . I paid about 1/3 for this one than they are asking for that one also.
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Bryan, if that PCGS coin is really an AU-55 your cent should be AU-58. It seems much more appealing than the PCGS example. It sounds like you got a terrific deal, as well. Well done SIR!

Hey, with all the money you saved you can afford to send it off for PCGS grading! Hopefully you can score a no-problem AU grade. You could then break out the coin for the album and hang on to the PCGS label as documentation. It's a personal choice, but I consider the PCGS certification of no-problem status especially valuable for early copper.
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Very nice Bryan! Way to go. That coin is a major show-stopper for the type set, and you have a great example. I have seen green residue a lot on certified early copper. I actually sent back an NGC XF-45 1909-s vdb because of the residue, since I thought it might be PVC. I'm not gutsy enough to crack em and soak em, but let me know how it turns out. You could try acetone too.
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Wow! That's really nice.

I settled for a 1810 VG in that slot for now but that's the type of coin I'd like to put into my 7070 some day. Or should I say $ome day?
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[quote]with all the money you saved you can afford to send it off for PCGS grading!{/quote]
I will leave that to who ever gets the album once I am gone from this world. I have left instructions about what the coin was worth when purchased and also told them that if they decides to ever break the set up their best bet would to send these specific coins to PCGS for re-grading to get the highest amount of money for the coins.
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