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 Posted 01/07/2010  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say fake. The mintmark looks too far right to be die 3, the date size and shape isn't right, the unusual sunkenness of the temple area and the shape of the cheekbone area is wrong compared to the 1909 hub, and the hair detail doesn't appear to match the 1909 hub. Don't know if the pictures will work but I'll try.
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Also note the nose is more pointed on the ebay coin compared to the rounded nose on the genuine coin, and the curve of the back edge of the shoulder is different. They used an hub of Lincoln from a different decade to make the fake die. (Lincolns portrait has been touched up several times over the years. A specialist could look at this bust and tell you what time period it was used. I can't do that, but I can see that it is different from the original bust.)
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 Posted 01/07/2010  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no Lincoln expert either, but everything about this coin screams fake to me. We don't even need to focus on tiny diagnostics.
Put your thumb over the date on the ebay coin--what decade of the obverse does that most resemble? I'd say the 1970s.
Speaking of the date, the digits--particularly the 9 is completely wrong. They are squished horizontally, the inside loops almost connect, and the lower tails are wrong. Compare to the photo below of a similar fake. It appears they fixed that obvious blunder with the 1.

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I'm no coin expert but...yada, yada, yada.
The lamest, most over-used excuse ever. You make the claim, you do the legwork to verify your item--simple as that.
Sorry for the rant, but this stuff really is beyond belief. I reported this--if that helps.
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 Posted 01/07/2010  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Podoprigora to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I guess this picture leaves no further questions
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 Posted 01/08/2010  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saruma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was going to give the seller the benefit of the doubt that maybe he really didn't know it was fake, but when I looked at another one of his auctions it made me think he is misleading on purpose. Or at the very least he is being willfully ignorant about the coin and doesn't want to learn it is a fake.

The auction below is for a replica of a gold coin (1838 Eagle). Notice that while he says it is a replica and it is gold plated, he then goes on to make a big deal about the price of gold and how you should buy this as an investment. Fortunately with a final price of $10.50 no one was fooled. But if he is willing to try and convince people that buying $2 worth of gold plating is an "investment" then I wouldn't trust him on anything else.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...280443432376
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If I'm going to buy keys raw, it won't be on ebay that's for sure.
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