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1886 GB Penny (Silver?)

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Does anyone have any idea what this is. It says on the coin that it is an 1886 great Britain penny but it is not brass or bronze coloured. It looks to be silver.
The Maundy pennies are silver but this has the standard reverse. Did they mint any silver pennies this year?

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You are correct about maundy Pennies they have a 1 with a crown above for that year. I don't know of any regular silver strikes for Pennies that year. Whats the weight of the coin?
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definitely not brass or bronze. Looks to be silver.
Dated 1886 with Britannia on reverse and Victoria on obverse
31mm and approx 9 grams
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Thats the correct weight and size for the standard bronze penny. Its possible the Tin might have leached out of the coin, or its been plated
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I am not sure. It came with a collection of pennies and farthings I just bought. It bears no resemblance to the other bronze and copper coins though. If it has been coated I wonder why as it is such a worn example.
Real mystery to me?
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I'll have to try and find it, but I've also got a "silver"penny. In fact it's a standard penny that spent over 40 years in a PVC envelope.
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Perhaps it was silvered in an attempt to pass it off as a florin or halfcrown.

Another alternative is that it's a fake. I don't know why anyone would go to the trouble of making a fake penny, but it would be far more probable than a genuine "silver penny".
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I agree, if someone was going to make a fake coin surely they would pick something of value?
This coin is very circulated so it must have been spent a few times as a general coin.
If it has been silvered somehow, it must have been done after it had circulated.
But why do it to a rough circulated coin?
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I'm thinking that whatever process was used to cause the silvery colour (Paint? Some crude plating process? No idea) also caused at least some of the damage.
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if someone was going to make a fake coin surely they would pick something of value?


It also could be, that whoever did it, was using the coin to test their system before they used it on a coin of value.
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Good point.

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To my eye, it seemed like silver plated, using old techniques.. I used to have a large copper Ottoman coin just like it. I think it is either silver plated or painted, using low alloy silver or tin.. British pennies are very thin, making them almost impossible to pass them as florings or even halfcrowns I think. And I eliminate the PVC option, since I think if it had stayed in an envelope with PCV on it, it must have gone sticky and greenish.
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You can take from the edge with sharp knife and I am sure that bottom will be bronze.
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http://s644.photobucket.com/albums/...vc%20damage/

The penny in the scans had been kept in a PVC type envelope from at least 1967 until earlier this year.
In hand, the reverse presents as pure silver.
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I received this in a lot consisting mostly of junk Is there any significance to this half penny being plated?

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It's a well-circulated half penny that is obviously plated. The "I" like marks both on obverse and reverse might be the holding point of the coin, while it is being dipped or electroplated. Unfortunately, this much of "tampering" kills most of its' colelcting value, but owing to the old age, I am sure it has stories to tell to us..
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