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Victoria's Best Side

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 Posted 01/11/2010  12:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I believe that this portrait of Victoria is by far her most flattering, although some folks like the young head better.

This is a florin (die #106, doubled '0')

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 Posted 01/11/2010  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like both, young and Gothic. Though, I should admit, I must have had a crush on the first effigy of E2 when I was a teenager, otherwise why would I start concentrating on Brits?
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 Posted 01/11/2010  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never really gave that much thought. I can rather imagine though, (when in her teens and twenties), Lizzy was most likely 'quite' the heartthrob in many a young man's mind.
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 Posted 01/12/2010  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uouo77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to cast my vote for this portrait, which I think is the same but without the crown.


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 Posted 01/12/2010  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excessively beautiful coin uouo. 'Breathtaking' might be a better term. I really don't understand though, just why is this portrait called the 'young head'? I realize that she is definitely younger here than in the jubilee or veiled portraits, but she still looks to be pushing at least forty here. I think, that as with most of us, we peak aesthetically in our twenties and thirties. I had assumed that the Gothic style was actually her coronation portrait. I may be well of base with that assumption though.
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 Posted 01/13/2010  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uouo77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I call this the Mature Bust. The Young Bust is more 1841 - 1860ish
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 Posted 01/13/2010  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well !! Once again, it seems as though I have focused the spotlight on my own ignorance.

Isn't it nice to have someone like me around to make you guys appear to be really smart?
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 Posted 01/13/2010  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, I'm pretty sure that this is correct, but am willing to stand corrected,
the portrait shown on the florin, above, is called the Gothic head. It was used on some British and some Indian coins.
the portrait on the penny, above, is called the Bun head, because the hair behind HM's head is tied in a bun. I think that this is used on bronze coins. I'm not sure when this effigy started and/or finished its run ...
There was also the Young head, used upto & including 1887, on gold & silver coins.
The Jubilee head was introduced in 1887, so there were two obverses in use that year.
HM did not like the jubilee effigy, and it was replaced in a relatively short time by the Old head, a.k.a. Veiled head, or Widow head, although she had been a widow for many years before that date.
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 Posted 01/18/2010  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fyimo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess when looking at them my vote goes for this one also.
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 Posted 01/21/2010  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
is it my eyes? I cant seem to locate the year of zeewool's coin. sorry, is there a year on that?
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 Posted 01/22/2010  02:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The legend on the obverse is "Victoria d.g.britt.reg.f.d.mdccclxxii"
The last part is Roman numerals (a bit drawn out) for 1872.
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 Posted 02/13/2010  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daltonista to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like I'm only three weeks behind the curve on this topic!

Thought I'd add some of my favorite Victoria portraits. The first three are from around the time of her coronation in 1839, while the last appeared on medals struck for her 60th anniversary as Queen, I believe, although this particular example was used on a series of patterns. The fourth effigy pictured below is from a regular colonial issue, an 1891 India rupee, by which time she was over 70 years old!
Can't tell by the coin, huh?

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"If everything seems to be under control, you're just not going fast enough."
--- Mario Andretti


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 Posted 02/13/2010  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for those contributions, Daltonista. And very nice pics of well-chosen coins.
Peter
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Hair style on the Bun Head pennies and the Godless Florin is very inspiring I think. By the way, the portrait of the Queen Victoria that has been used in many of the coins for almost 50 years is taken from a bust, which was made when she was around 18. This possibly is why she wanted it to be changed at her Jubilee year.
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