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This is 1AQ is it not?









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 Posted 01/13/2010  05:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
21 is a area I have absolutely no knowledge of. SuperDave is the one I go to with all my 1921 VAM questions because that was the date he collected exclusively for a few years
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I can't access VAMWorld or the 21-D break guide from my current location , but I do see the break in 'A' of STATES. Can't remember the exact VAM for that one. Nice little Cud at 1:00 on the obverse.

SuperDave must be getting some shuteye!
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 Posted 01/13/2010  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just how many of you guys here are either closet or mainstream vammers? I would sort of like to know the waters that I swim in.
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closet or mainstream vammers


Well, I think I'm out of the closet now.

VAMming consumes about 95% of my collecting activity these days. I don't go after every year, just focus on a few (1878, 1880, 1888, 1891, 1900, and 1921). If you post a coin outside this group I probably won't comment. Every once in a while I'll take a look at Peace dollars for a change of pace.

So, how would you characterize your VAMming activities?
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Strictly a closed chapter in my life, Nut. A very short chapter at that. All that I have to serve as reminders of that phase are a few coins.

Yes, I would say that you are definitely out of the closet now, with that blatant admission of guilt.













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 Posted 01/13/2010  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not exactly a scholar, but it wouldn't be hyperbole to say that VAMming dominates my collecting activities.

1AQ, indeed. Quite rare, considering the prominence of the Cud; it's not a difficult coin to recognize with the unaided eye.

The 1895-O appears to be VAM-6, but worth more just because of its' existence than any variety.
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Thanks very much once again Dave.

I was 'fairly' certain about the 1AQ, but never had even a guess as to the variety on the 95-O. As you imply though, it probably doesn't matter much, and might even be a thing to keep 'hush hush' about if I intended to sell.
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Recently, I sold a bag of Morgans but before I did I thought I would see if any of the common dates were not so common. Glad I did. I kept about 30 different vams and had some certified. I usually look for them on the auction boards and shows. I find a lot of TPG that are actually nice VAMS. Must have been submitted for grade only. Great photos by the way. nlp
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I find a lot of TPG that are actually nice VAMS. Must have been submitted for grade only. Great photos by the way

back in the day the TPG's didn't recognize VAM's so they didn't place the attribution on the label. there are plenty of Morgans slabbed that are unattributed and when I had my #1 registry set that is how I built it, by buying unattributed VAM's in the highest grade and then resubmitting them for attribution. There were allot of my coins that were pop-1 coins at the time so I was a considerable higher than anyone else competing in the set
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now if you want to see SuperDave in person go ahead and post that 1921-D VAM-1X you are hiding up here and I bet he would be at your house before you had any responses on the forum
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Wow Bryan....I had no idea. #1 registry set is a feat, no matter when it was attained. I am literally dumbfounded and greatly impressed.

Jeff has the only 1X as we both know. It is, in my opinion, destined to be unique for eternity. Some Cuds, I believe, happen instantly, without a Retained Cud, break, or even a crack to proceed it. I still do not believe that another will ever be found.
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yeah but don't tell Superdave that, he still has hopes of finding one in some secluded yard sale somewhere. I don't think the die could have lasted much longer after that 1 was struck but one may never know. Heck they may have melted down 10 of them when silver hit 50.00 an ounce and they are gone forever
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I am with you there Bryan, I like to entertain the notion that there likely were more struck, because the operator probably could not have reacted with the foot clutch quickly enough to disengage the upper toggle joint assy after just one strike (at the rate of 80-90 strikes per minute). That is, if the operator was alerted to a malfunction at all.

After a quick sifting thru the box of coins under the press to retrieve the affected strikes, one was missed and entered circulation.

That overlooked singular coin is now famous, and the rest were sent back to be melted down in the mint foundry. Tons of speculation on my part, I know, but that is the way I will look at it until another pops up.

I do realize that a lot of folks, including the discoverer/owner, believe that there are more to be found, and that is why it is included in the top 40 (or hot 40 or whatever it is called) list. So far, it has been one of the real stoppers in completing the set except for one individual.

Yard sales? Well, I do imagine that if the possibility exists of realizing the dream, a yard sale would probably be more likely to yield success than a coin show or dealer's stock. I do wish him or anyone else who feels compelled to chase rainbows the best of luck.


Hope he knows that I am only joshing in my seemingly stark, pointed sarcasm.
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