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Who Makes A Good Floor Safe?

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 Posted 01/17/2010  6:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Powerkicker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers


I'm looking to pick up a safe I can mount in a concrete slab and cover with a rug. I want enough room and favorable conditions to put a small stack of gold or silver coins away safely. Can you guys recommend a good model for a reasonable cost? I want security that would require power tools and a lot of noise to defeat. Thoughts?
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I don't know about safes, but I do have some experience with home construction. Forgive me if I give you any unneeded advice...

Unless you get a very shallow safe, it will probably go completely through the concrete slab and into the soil beneath. (A typical garage or house slab is no deeper than 6". Usually about 4") So, moisture will be a big concern. Make sure the safe is water proof, and you will probably want to add some extra moisture proofing, just to be sure...
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As already sort of noted this sounds like a really poor idea. If in a slab of concrete, laying horizontally, remember some important facts.
1.Water is heavier than air and settles on floors. Your safe better be the most water resistant one on earth.
2.Every time you open it, moisture would fall in and stay there. You would need some reeeeally fantastic gel packs for this system.
3.Concrete is really a good absorber of moisture. Therefore it is almost always damp especially the floors of houses, garages, etc.
4.Almost all safes have a locking system on the front. Makes for great tripping hazard.
5.Most safes are fairly deep. Just how deep of a concrete slab are you planning making? Might have to be several feet thick or formed for just that safe.

Now in a wall slab, might be a little different. So are you saying floor or wall slab?
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You can do it,but it would be cumbersome. On the OUTSIDE of the safe walls you brush on a waterproofing compound, followed by adhering waterproofing board over the the compound. Then set the safe in a french drain setup. You have rocks instead of dirt surrounding the safe so water drains through the rocks, and does not contact the safe. Sounds like a big project.
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You can do it,but it would be cumbersome. On the OUTSIDE of the safe walls you brush on a waterproofing compound, followed by adhering waterproofing board over the the compound. Then set the safe in a french drain setup. You have rocks instead of dirt surrounding the safe so water drains through the rocks, and does not contact the safe. Sounds like a big project.


French drains are usually used where only highly water proofed items are inside. The problem with them is under high water talble areas, water goes in as well as out. Exact reason not used in many areas for sump pits, handholes, manholes, etc.
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French drains are usually used where only highly water proofed items are inside. The problem with them is under high water talble areas, water goes in as well as out. Exact reason not used in many areas for sump pits, handholes, manholes, etc.


Sorry I do not understand your post. If you have a safe below grade you would want rocks around it to let the water percolate back into the earth. Rather than dirt which would holds the water against the safe and lets it permeate the safe.
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