1652 Pine Tree Shilling. Probably Fake, But Looks Quite Nice

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mmerc20 Valued Member United States 372 Posts	Posted 01/17/2010 11:00 pm I'm sure it's a fake. I couldn't be lucky enough to find an original, but if anything, it is a very nice copy. I don't think it's cast, but I can't tell if it's silver or not. The person I got it from said it was in the family for probably over 75 years. Who knows really. I don't know how thick the originals were, but this one is probably 2mm or so. Plus the main difference I see in this one compared to originals is 3 vertical dots underneath the second "I" of "XII". I have not seen this on originals. I wonder if the three dots might be a sort of makers mark to distinguish this person's replicas. What does everyone think? Mike Report this Post to the Staff

vermontensium Moderator United States 16677 Posts	Posted 01/18/2010 12:00 am I'm 99% confident it's a replica. The lettering is not correct for a genuine specimen. Also, the edge of this piece looks too thick for a genuine piece. The patina also looks manufactured. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
TreasHunt Pillar of the Community United States 2540 Posts	Posted 01/19/2010 07:25 am agreed, 99.9999999% a copy. How much did you pay? Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 01/19/2010 10:43 am At 2 mm thick it is WAY too thick to be genuine. These coins were THIN more like .5 mm Report this Post to the Staff
thq Pillar of the Community United States 3342 Posts	Posted 01/19/2010 5:05 pm The pitting looks like casting flaws. How much does it weigh? If it were real I'd expect about 5 grams. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire Report this Post to the Staff
mmerc20 Valued Member United States 372 Posts	Posted 01/20/2010 09:24 am I didn't pay anything for it, specifically. It was in a grouping I bought. I have always loved this coin and since I can't afford an original, I think it is a decent replica without having the big COPY stamped on it somewhere. The owner said it's been in her family for possibly 50+ years. Report this Post to the Staff
mick New Member United States 1 Posts	Posted 01/29/2010 4:31 pm I think what you have is a Peter Rosa copy; I just found one too, if you look carefully at the rim, you will see "COPY" written vertically down the edge. I thought it was a fake anyway, but it broke my heart to see that. I also got the famous "Willow" tree sixpence, that one doesn't say copy, but Rosa didn't tag the first generation or so. At least you'll know when you find a real one. Anyone know the value of Rosa's "original" copies? I also got a couple off-center pennies from the early 50s, one of which is quite striking (about 80% off-center), just the date and MM visible, which I'll post on here eventually Report this Post to the Staff
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