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1908 Two Cent Unable To Identify | Austria 2 Heller

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 Posted 01/23/2010  1:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kdj to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi and thanks for help!
My coin has no country or face or words on it and after looking at coin pictures for the last several hours I am sending pictures hoping someone knows where this is from and if it's worth anything?
I apologize if my pictures are an incorrect size. I selected image size as 90? (Following uploading images directions.) Hope I did it right?

1908-Two-Cent-Unable-To-Identify-|-Austria-2-Heller

1908-Two-Cent-Unable-To-Identify-|-Austria-2-Heller

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 Posted 01/23/2010  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Austria (Austro-Hungarian Empire), 2 heller
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DL20K,
Thank you! Since I am completely new at this, and more or less stumbling around the Coin Community site, please allow me to ask:
my coin is from Austria? Austro Hungarian Empire?
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Yes. The Austro-Hungarian Empire (which was dissolved after World War I) minted both "Austrian" and "Hungarian" versions of their coins.

The Hungarian ones feature a crown and Hungarian legend on the obverse, and the date can be found below the crown. While the Austrian ones - like yours - feature only the denomination and year with no additional writing at all.

This type was produced from 1892 to 1915. This is in fact quite a common coin.

Oh and the pictures, the forum limits the size (weight) of an image (to 90 kB), not it's resolution (90 pixels). There would be no problem in uploading a larger one.
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 Posted 01/23/2010  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kdj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are very kind! Thank you.
I was told it might be worth 50 cents! Funny!
If you have time, is 2 Heller the same as US 2 Cent?
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Yes, I suppose they were right, the catalog puts the value for the usual circulated pieces (VF) at $0.25.

2 heller was 0.02 of an Austrian Krone (Crown), so yes, in this aspect we can call it a "2 cent piece"
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The Heller or Häller was a German coin valued at half a Pfennig named after the city of Hall am Kocher (today Schwäbisch Hall). The coin was produced from the beginning of the 13th century on as silver pfennig (Häller Pfennig).

The term Heller was in wide use as a name for coins of small value throughout many of the German states up to 1873 when, after German unification, Mark and Pfenning were introduced as nationwide coinage.

The German Heller saw a resurrection in 1904 when the government took over responsibility for the currency of German East Africa from the German East Africa Company. The Heller was introduced as 1/100 of a Rupie instead of the pesa which had so far been a 1/64 of a rupie.

Heller was also the term used in the Austrian half of the empire for 1/100 of the Austro-Hungarian krone (the other being filler in the Hungarian half), the currency of Austria-Hungary from 1892 until after the demise of the Empire.

The term heller (Czech: hale#345;, Slovak: halier) was also used for a coin valued at 1/100 of koruna in the Czech Republic (Czech koruna) and Slovakia (Slovak koruna), as well as in former Czechoslovakia (Czechoslovak koruna).
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Just a little remark. While the Austrians called their crown "corona", the Hungarians spelled it with "K", i.e. "korona".
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Re: the "face value" of your coin: in 1913 (just before the outbreak of WWI) the Austrian krone was worth almost exactly 20 US cents. So at that time, your 2 heller coin would only have been worth 2/5ths of a cent.
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TurtleO/H, you seem to be the man to ask as you're into this region. First, did the Austrians and Hungarians use their currency interchangeably, kind of what the Euro countries do now? And what about modern Czechia and Slovakia, who, I believe, were the part of the empire. Which coins were issued for the primary circulation on their territories? Thanks.
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First, did the Austrians and Hungarians use their currency interchangeably, kind of what the Euro countries do now?

As I understand it, the situation was similar to the modern Eurozone. While the coinages were interchangeable (and the Austro-Hungarian Bank issued a unified paper currency), the coinages were issued and administered by the governments of the two halves of the country.

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And what about modern Czechia and Slovakia, who, I believe, were the part of the empire. Which coins were issued for the primary circulation on their territories?

Every division of the Empire was nominally attached to either the Austrian Empire or the Kingdom of Hungary (or, in the case of Bosnia, both). Bohemia and Moravia, the two main constituents of the modern Czech Republic, were part of Austria. Slovakia was in Hungarian territory. The maps on Wikipedia give the breakdown of the administrative districts of the Empire and which countries acquired which territories once the empire broke apart.
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Thanks Sap! I love the History. Recently got a book, The History Atlas of the World, fascinating stuff!
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At the end of World War I and the collapse of Austro-Hungarian Empire, Czechs (originally Bohemia kingdom) and Slovaks, as part of the Treaty of Versailles, formed Czechoslovakia. There was only one currency, Czechoslovakian Koruna (crown). On 1 January 1993 Czechoslovakia peacefully split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia.
At the present, Slovakia has the Euro and Czech Republic still Koruna.
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