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Full Bands Or Full "Split" Bands; Which Is It? -Photo Added

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I have seen the terms Full Bands and Full "Split" Bands for Merc Dimes.

Is the word "split" significant, and which term is used more often?

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It's a slipprey slope. Iv'e been to court over my 16d's. Buy from a killer-seller, and ask for a 2x gaurentee. That's what I do. Selling & buying. If it's legit, they shouldn't have a prob.
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The terms have become synonymous. Maybe they ran out of room on the slab. To earn the rating the bands should be complete across the fascia and feature a full (not filled or damaged) groove.

Sometimes the TPGs (third party graders) shun standardization in favor of uniqueness. Note how NGC and PCGS denote deep-mirror and deep-proof like coins (DMPL vs DPL).
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jj,

I think fioti misread the question and provided a personal example of his experience with an FSB designated coin.
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As I understand it the terms are generally used interchangeably in the market place and the top 2 TPGs, PCGS & NGC, both use the abbreviation as "FB" (Full Bands).

However, there is a difference in the quality of dimes designated as FB. From a technical perspective all that is needed is the middle band needs to be fully separated according to PCGS requirements, and all 3 horizontal bands need to be separated according to NGC requirements. In reality though, it is rarely the case that the middle band will be split while the top and bottom ones are not, so for all practical purposes they both have the same standards. Some dimes designated as FB are separated but do not have any roundness or relief to the bands and you need to see the coin under high magnification to actually see that they are in fact split. Whereas other FB dimes have very high relief. The best example would be to look at a nicely struck proof. You would be able to easily see the fully split and rounded band without much or any magnification.

Hope this helps!
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Also, due to the strike characteristic, if the middle band is separated, the other two bands also will be, unless the top or lower band was damaged by something post mint.
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It's a 1923 S Merc. Here is the reverse. Would you call it "Full Bands" or "Full Split Bands"?

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Based on your photo, it doesn't look like FB or FSB. The bottom one is merging but looks post mint.
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Your picture is a little small to be able to determine for sure. Do you have any larger pictures of the central bands?

Again, the terms "Full Bands" and "Full Split Bands" are generally accepted to mean the same thing.
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Full split bands

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Yep looks like full split bands to me. NICE Merc
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Absolutely and yes, NICE merc :)

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Yes, this coin has "Full Split Bands" and they are also nicely rounded. VERY nice merc.!
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Please allow me one more clarification question. Full Split Bands are completely split, but may or may not be rounded?
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