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 Australia
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Quote: Recently a subset of TDC, Gough Island and Nightingale Island, each issued NCLT crowns in their names, and another TDC part, Stoltenhoff Isl., issued "circulating" coinage, 1/2d through 1 crown. Now Gough did the same. ... You forgot to put the British Antarctic Territory on the list. No, I didn't forget them. As I said at the bottom of my previous post, I wasn't including them. Gough, Nightingale and Stoltenhoff are uninhabited rocks; zero population. I consider their coinage "unofficial". Alderney (part of Guernsey) perhaps should be added; I'm on the fence about those ones. In any case, all these "coins" are NCLT. Likewise the "British Antarctic Territory"; no inhabitants plus unrecognised state = unofficial coin. I'm still surprised that Argentina and/or Chile haven't declared war on the Pobjoy Mint over that one yet. Quote: Niue and Pitcairn just minted circulation coins from 5c to dollar or two dollars, so turn them black in Sap's list. I wasn't aware of the existence of these particular sets, but while they may look like "circulation coins", they're struck by the "New Zealand Mint", an NCLT mint. Neither island is big enough to sustain an autonomous coinage, and I doubt any of the coins will ever even make it to the islands in question. I'd say they stay red, until and unless I see evidence otherwise. Quote: I'd turn Zambia green, I have eight 2000's coins with E II on them... British Indian Ocean Territory needs to be turned green as well for they issued 2£ coin in 2009... Corrections noted and listings changed. There are likely to be a couple of other "redlisted" countries that should be green; The OP is focussing mainly on circulation coinage, so I didn't scour their Krause listings completely thoroughly; I was working mostly from memory. 
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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I also only just noticed that the dimwits over at Wikipedia didn't actually include "Great Britain" with the other Commonwealth countries.  List updated again.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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 United States
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Thanks for all the help, guys!  I am pleasantly surprised at all the activity this post has generated. I am intently watching your discussion about some of the "questionable" countries.
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Philippines
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I counted and have some 14 of different country QEII's strewn in various boxes and misc containers, never thought I had that many! Inspired by sap's list, am now interested to go for this collecting thread. the list of countries/dependencies is formidable What do you think are the chances of completing a set like this? 
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 Australia
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Completing it might be tricky; finding her on the coins of some of the "green zone" countries (NCLT) is pretty hard to track down. Papua New Guinea, for instance, has only put her portrait on two 10 kina coins, 1977 and 1982, both struck by the Franklin Mint. While I don't think any of the countries are "gold only" or otherwise hyper-expensive, some of them only have her portrait on coins worth in the $100 range. The main problem with "completing" it would be that the list is constantly expanding; Mints like Pobjoy, Perth Mint and the New Zealand Mint are always looking for the next country they can slap a royal portrait on, because they know that "royalty" sells coins. Uganda, for instance, never issued a "queen's portrait" coin until it became a flag of convenience for the Perth Mint. You might have trouble finding a Perth Mint Uganda coin that's actually round; most of them are all sorts of odd shapes, like triangles, or shaped like the map of Australia.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Philippines
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thanks sap! an open-ended collecting adventure! sounds like fun am going for it, only for the base metal types 
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Australia
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Quote: the smaller ones in the Caribbean particularly use a common currency, the "East Caribbean States dollar". The East Caribbean dollar still had the portrait of QEII on it. 
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Philippines
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very interesting coin there lilaznkev1n, a ten sided coin, thanks for sharing! 
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United States
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Burma was also a British colony (as part of British India), but was never part of the Commonwealth after independence. Just wanted to add that for the sake of completeness.
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Sweden
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Another one is the South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands pounds! 
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Australia
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quote from SAP: "... I also only just noticed that the dimwits over at Wikipedia didn't actually include "Great Britain" with the other Commonwealth countries. List updated again." Find any drunken Scot, and turn the conversation to "nationhood", and you'll get a lecture about Scotland being a "country". In support of this contention, it will be pointed out that Scotland has a separate team from England in the Commonwealth Games; and also in the FIFA World Cup. It is futile to point out that almost every other international body (even ebay) recognizes a country, or perhaps nation, call "the United Kingdom". If you do a bit of googling, you'll find that "U.K." is in fact an abbreviation for "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". I gather that upto 1923, when the Republic of Ireland acheived independence, "U.K." was then an abbreviation for "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland". So, I gather that G.B. is more of a geographical name, than a legal &/or political one. And, it would appear to mean the sum total of England, Scotland, & Wales, and possibly also some of the nearby islands. Of course, all of this begs the question of "what precisely is a country, or a nation ?" And, depending upon how you answer that, you may have to further amend Sap's list. In my view, the issue of coins bearing a regional element does not elevate a region into a nation: for example the Australian 20c & 50c CoF coins issued in 2001. Sometimes, I don't envy you OFEC collectors, although I do admire your courage. Peter in Darwin
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United States
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Great list! I just recently started a collection of QEII coins, which grew out of a smaller collection of Canadian commemorative quarter sets. The common theme of Queen Elizabeth II off-set by the variations in sizes, shapes, monetary units, and countries of origin has captured my attention and drawn me into the world of coin collecting (the finer details of which I know nothing). Can anyone recommend any books which would be of use for learning more about coins of this type, beyond the basic Catalog of World Coins? I have already picked up a book on Canadian coins, but am interested in learning more about British and Australian coins.... Steve PS First post to the forum here, so "Hello" 
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United Kingdom
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Barbados, Ghana, Lesotho, Malawi, Samoa, Sierra Leonne and Swaziland have all issued NCLT with the Queen's portrait.
British Virgin Islands use the US$ so should be green also.
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United Kingdom
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Further to the UK/GB discussion, why not "hedge your bets" and collect one each of the UK constituent countries pound coins - then you will have an England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland addition.
Edited by Bacchus2 05/12/2010 5:03 pm
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