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By the way, that link to the 'similar die break' could be legitimate, but I highly doubt it. Radial breaks are far and few between, and I would have to see a close up before I would buy into the notion.
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Edited by foundinrolls
01/31/2010 2:28 pm
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Very good, you finally found an actual die break. Now all you need to do is learn the difference between a cut and a break. It really isn't too difficult.
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Well, there went "I will refrain from further rudeness".
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Well, there went "I will refrain from further rudeness". Yeah especially when he's the one that's wrong. I don't think I've ever seen anyone on any forum backpedal more than he does. States a "fact", gets called out, and backpedals. Oi. |
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Your point is well taken xshift, however, my point has not yet been accepted as being made, yet the constant links to other coins (that have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the coin this thread revolves around) are injected as some strange attempt at substantiation of a die break that never existed..
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I am not backpedaling on anything scubu. My point is this is not a die break, it is a cut. If you can't see that, then do yourself a favor next time you want to buy error coins and take someone with you that knows something about them.
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I will back off of this whole thing now, as I see nothing to be gained from continued interaction. Carry on without me.
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I am not backpedaling on anything scubu. Took me 10 seconds to find this one.... Quote:
The purpose of the upsetting machine was to thicken the edges of the planchets so that coins with milling or dentils (denticles) would strike up that design (as the combined milling/rim void required a large amount of metal flow) for proper design effect. Milling and the rim are actually one and the same device. Upsetting machines were called 'milling machines' in their earlier days of use because that was their main purpose; to provide extra metal on the planchet where it was needed most (in the milling). Planchets intended for coins without milling or dentils, received no trip to the upsetting machine. Where did you learn that? Did someone you took to the store with you tell you? There are several more, if anyone cares to look. Quote:
My point is this is not a die break, it is a cut. Well MY point is this. If you don't know, don't state your guess as hard cold fact like above, you're doing everyone here a great disservice. |
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Why does it look like lamination peel and some folks are calling it a die break?
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Why does it look like lamination peel and some folks are calling it a die break? vermontensium: To me, that part looks like a shadow. I don't have the best eyes (or monitor), and was actually going to ask for the same close-up shot, but from the other side/angle. The straight-on picture looks like a die break, the side shot looks sort of like a lamination or a die break with a shadow. That is, that's the way it looks here. zeewol: Believe me, you've quite made your point that you think it's a cut in the coin. Other people have differing opinions or ideas and manage to be respectful to all when pointing them out. Discussion is why we're here, after all. Asking why someone has a particular opinion will get you lots of honest discussion, but pointing and laughing at others will get you nowhere. |
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zeewool, it maybe a die break, a knife cut, lamentation break or an act of God, it makes not difference. What does make a difference between you and Bill is that one of you are a gentleman and the other is probably a knife cut. Love you insight and knowledge but there is no place here or anywhere for that matter for being rude. It accomplishes nothing. True intellectual discourse has neither ego or emotion.
Jim
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Now, that said, and in support of zeewool, die cracks like this always seem to start on the outside of the die as in Bill's pics. Notice that this starts inside the rim and that seems to be incongruous with what I understand. Thoughts, please.  |
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The straight-on picture looks like a die break I agree. It's that side shot that's throwing me a little  swcoin.ecrater.com
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