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 Posted 01/31/2010  5:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wvyankee to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have been on ebay for a while today and began looking for lots of Lincoln wheats. Some are advertised as "unsearched", however, I have been around long enough to realize that this is not always (if EVER) the case. My question is this, what should I be looking for? I realize that these are the circulated variety and that is cool for me. Some are listed in pounds. About how many are in a pound? Has anyone ever really found anything in these lots? Is this a good way to bolster a collection? Do banks separate wheats from memorials? Any comments would be appreciated.
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 Posted 01/31/2010  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.parkpennies.com/penny/penny.htm 145 Unsearched Wheats are pretty much an endangered species....if not extinct. (unsearched for key dates) Now I believe that you may find wheats that have been unsearched for varieties. I have over $100.00 of wheats that I've pulled from circulation over a 35 year period. I know that there are NO key dates...but I've never looked for varieties.
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 Posted 01/31/2010  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buying bank wrapped rolls may increase your odds of being unsearched but make sure that both ends are tight. There are some people on ebay that have been selling these rolls for a while now and have sold hundreds of them. Check their feedback...sometimes their customers give some indication of what they found in the rols.
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 Posted 01/31/2010  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I purchased a lot of "truly unsearched" Lincoln Cents once just to see what the scam was all about. He claimed he had "barrels full" and had no time to search through 100,000+ cents. He supposedly takes an ice scooper, and pours them into a bag (unsearched of course) and ships them to you. I cannot remember but it must have been 500 or so LWC's. I came across a few 1910,1918-D,1919,1921,tons of 1957 & 1958 RD's. There was absolutely nothing even remotely resembling a key date. He also had in his description "see what people have been finding": 1909-S V.D.B.,1914-D,1955 DDO, 1924-D AU+ and so on. Bottom line is if it's on ebay, they have been searched. Don't believe any of these sellers.
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I fully agree with vermontesium, do NOT believe any claims of being unsearched. Also, a lot of people will make penny roles and stick a circulated 1909-VDB on the end. Then in the title they'll say "1909-S VDB?" question mark. Yeah, OK. Why are you asking something you already know the answer to... it's a worn VDB NOT from San Fransisco mint.

I can't stand sellers like that.
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There is actually one seller on ebay that has rolls that look like they were found 60 or 70 years ago in grandmas attic that have an IHC on one end, and exactly, a 1909 or 09 V.D.B. on the other. He has several of these for auction all with bids! Probably specifies "Absolutely no returns!" too. So when you open that roll, I would not be surprised to see 48 LMC's staring back at you!
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 Posted 01/31/2010  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LuckyDIme to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I recently purchased a scam on e-bay, the picture showed a array of coins that looked of interest, and was listed as un-searched. There were no dates on the coins shown, But when I received the coins, they were in folder's and every one of them had a date on it. (DUH) I complained to e-bay and they contacted the seller and he refunded 1/2 of my monies. ( STILL DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING) LESSON LEARNED
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I recently purchased a scam on e-bay, the picture showed a array of coins that looked of interest, and was listed as un-searched. There were no dates on the coins shown, But when I received the coins, they were in folder's and every one of them had a date on it. (DUH) I complained to e-bay and they contacted the seller and he refunded 1/2 of my monies. ( STILL DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING) LESSON LEARNED


Why did you agree to half?
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 Posted 01/31/2010  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LuckyDIme to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller had said I would have to return in original packaging and condition and I had destroyed the bags they came in.
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 Posted 02/01/2010  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add penny pincher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NEVER trust "Unsearched" sales on ebay, the only way they are unsearched is by the fact you have not done it yet and everyone else has. If you are just stating out and want to add some coins to your collection, then go ahead and buy a few, but do not count on anything of value.

When I first started getting back into collecting four years ago, I started by getting some of these rolls and was happy with them at the time. If you look at the contents you will get about: 50% 1950's, 25-30% 1940's and the rest in lower dates. Again, if you are just starting, a great way to go but if you have most of your set, then stay away. Most of these rolls are just doubles or roll finds that someone has and is just trying to make a small profit off of them but there are some that will take complete advantage of you. Personally, I would stay away from the ones mentioned above, especially the ones with a IHC showing.

What I have learned from this board is to go back and check the purchase they have made over the last little while and see if they are just repackaging them to resell. I could not find the post, but some time ago a member showed the break down of a typical ebay seller. They first bought a bunch of paper rolls from one person, bought a ton of generic date wheat's from another and then bought some somewhat interesting dates that they would then seed the end of each roll. I am more than happy that they posted this because I always took it for face value of what people were selling and never checked their history, now I do it all the time.

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Not very long ago, in another thread...somebody made a comment about "unsearched wheats" that stuck with me.

I'm paraphrasing here...

"There is NO such thing as UNSEARCHED wheaties."

The very last wheatback cent was minted 52 years ago...

In my opinion, they've ALL been searched...anybody that advertises that they haven't been, is a liar...

That's why I like roll searching... I know what I'm getting when I pay for it.
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 Posted 02/01/2010  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add omahaorange to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bought a few Wheat penny rolls to help fill holes in my collection. I only bought off live vendors, never ebay, and the couple I dealt with were up front about the range of dates I would find in the rolls. One of my favorite vendors actually rolled them himself. I was paying about $2.50 to $3.00 a roll. What gets me is the price people are paying at live auctions for wheat rolls. I actually watched a guy the other day pay $8.00 a roll.
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The same can be said for sealed silver proof sets from the 50's and 60's. They have all been steamed opened and checked for Cameo proof coins especially the Franklin halves and then resealed and sold as never opened.
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Thanks for the heads up, I am a newbie and don't anything about coins.
Economy is slow and was doing something to keep occupied, but I would like to get more involved and put some sort of collage together
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 Posted 02/03/2010  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wvyankee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to you all for the replies. I learn something every time I come onto this site!
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