1878-P Holy Grail?

Oh My! How did I miss this I hang my head in shame. VAM84 is the most common B1 Reverse there are so even in MS-64 they carry no premium, actually the only way they carry a premium in 65 or above is if someone is trying to build a registry set. Even though I can't see it in your pictures, any time you see a dash under the first 8 in the date and a long nock on the Reverse it is a VAM-84/84A

I was just trying to eliminate things instead of actually looking at the pictures I guess. I swear I didn't see the dash under the 8 in the date and didn't even think to look at the D. I didn't even see the long nock at first then when he showed closer pictures it kind of threw me for a loop and I never even looked at his original pictures again

I forgot, it is graded MS 65.

yours is actually a 84-A because of the clashing you show with the line coming from the neck. I believe the 84A is more common than the 84 because the clashing had to happen pretty early on in the dies life. You should also see the clashed E on the reverse right between the bow and tail feathers (you may have to turn the coin to actually see this "E"). Here is the attributes of the 84A

its really hard to see and even if you can't find it its still a 84A because of the clashing. PCGS will not acknowledge 84A from 84 but NGC will call it VAM-84 with clashed E instead of 84A. I still want to know who graded this 65 because I sure can't tell by the pictures but I would have never thought it was anywhere near a 65

as I said when I didn't see the long nock at first I just wasn't even thinking about B1 reverse at all, then when I finally did see the long nock I didn't even look at the first pictures again and was just going by what others were saying and trying to disqualify the coin from those. never even looked at the first pictures again. Anyhow I am embarrassed to even call myself a B1 collector and miss a 84

It is always best to have full pictures of the coin. I have enjoyed reading this thread. Without the full picture of the coin, sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. It just shows no one is perfect.