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Why Is Silver Price Going Up ?

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I recently googled "Why is silver price going up ?"

i came across an interesting article written on this forum 1yr ago. It is very interesting to see what has happend based on the members opinons/facts/ other factors.

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...&whichpage=1

i would love to hear more on this topic, seeing as the economy has taken the turn that it has since this was written.

Thanks, SD
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Hmm, if I recall, since that thread was going, silver rose to $20 or so, then dropped down to $9, and cam back up to $16-17 range. It is a bit lower then that. This is very high volatility. That said, I do remember when you could get rolls of silver Washington quarters for $40 each on ebay back in the early 2000s
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I do remember when you could get rolls of silver Washington quarters for $40 each on ebay back in the early 2000s

when I first started collecting I started with Morgans and bars of silver. I was getting poured bars for about $4.00 a ounce I sold allot of it once it went to 15 or 16.00 a ounce and then sold the rest when it hit over 20.00 a ounce
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Interesting to look back at that thread. I posted that I thought the rise was too much too fast, & predicted it would have a pretty good sized drop. Looks like I was right for once although it has recovered since then. I'm expecting another drop in price in the near future & am hoping to buy in then.
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 Posted 02/11/2010  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agosos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with another drop,but I dont think it will go under 12 bucks.
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1. Investment demand... again, especially what's happening in the EU right now. Gold/silver/other commods were going down the last weeks because Greece is about to go bankrupt. Whenever there is instability, there the dollar goes up because of haven demand. However, because the EU and the ECB is planning to rescue Greece right now, there is more investment demand because of increased want of volatility, and thus the increase in price in commodities, non-USD, non-Yen currencies and the entire markets as a whole.

2. China is buying again... and once again *saying* they're going to dump treasuries again.

Anyways, as long as silver is under $15.80 +- 10c per ounce, I would keep buying.
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Imho, the answer is (and has been for me as an investor) security. I will try and take it apart layer by layer.

Why precious metals should be going down:
1. The robust demands for gold and silver are gone. The manufacturing sector has little need for silver, primarily, and the jewelry industry is on it heels. World wide, house holds are fighting to make ends meet and there is little room for luxury items. So, standard demand for these items is very weak.

2. As an investment tool, we have already seem the major gains in metals as a safe harbor. Investors like myself have already left the speculative markets and moved to safe havens, not to look for profit as much as to limit lose. Conversely, the reversing effect of investors leaving the metals and moving back into the markets is taking place and this should have a downward pressure on metals as well.

3. Supply and demand, at this point in time, has little effect as demand is down. Yes, every time we put pressure on China they start talking about stopping investing the US economy but ain't going to happen. We, by far, are the largest importer of Chinese good. They are stuck, for the time being, as they cannot shoot the goose with the golden egg.

Reasons for metals to increase:
1. Simple, The US dollar. When the world trades petro product, what is the currency of choice in the transaction, the dollar. It is, even if the EU would claim not, the monetary system for major economic movement in the world. Every treasury has dollars in them as an investment. You can bet that China does not have Zimbabwe bucks in it's investment portfolio. So, when the US dollar is weak, there is movement into metals, again, as a safe harbor, waiting for the US economy to rebound. Normally, with the economy reversing course, you would think that there is downward pressure mounting on metals. The caveat here is our national debt, completely out of control. This can only mean two things, well three, death, taxes and INFLATION. Until the debt is addressed, confidence in the US dollar as a world wide investment tool will be weak and this will fuel metal sales.

Well America is starting to protest spending, wait until they see the tax bill, and as the dollar cools the precious metal bubble will break. But for now, there is still some room to make money in metals. Again, IMHO, the window of opportunity is small, the big gains have already been realized.

Jim
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Ok guys, this is a thread I can really enjoy reading. One question: what is the best place to pick up PMs with the lowest premium? I think APMEX can be had for $0.75 over spot...ebay? clist? CCF? (when it's for sale)
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It will depend on where you live. I like craigslist, but my metro area is not that large, so it can be slow going buying from only there. ebay is often overpriced in my opinion so I don't really look there much anymore.
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Nod2003, good input, thanks! I can use all the suggestions I can get. I'm in central Mexico and mail order to a freight forwarder is my easiest method...so, ebay and mail order business are best. Wish Clist was a viable option down here...

Can anyone PM me with a recommendation for a coin shop that would be suitable?
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harrison2 you can buy for a small premium over melt from Tulvig but you need to buy in larger quantities.
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Great suggestion! Tulvig is the price I'm looking for...but the volume requirement is a killer for me right now.
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Jim,

There is no way the United State could ever pay back what we have borrowed from the rest of the world. Our politicians continue to borrow money from the rest of the world while spending like we were the ones saving all along. Look at the size of the US economy then look at our national debt. The US Treasury dept. will most likely be hiring for printing press maintenance crews.
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