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Well no, they wouldn't necessarily adjust their bullion prices if they paid the higher spot for them of a few weeks ago. There should be a modest decline shortly once the higher priced bullion pieces are sold.
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I'm not willing to pay that much more over spot price for a new coin. Older coins perhaps...
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nds76 Lets say you bought a roll of Eagles or Maple Leafs a month ago for $15 per coin. How much would you be willing to sell them for today? Herein lies the problem of many coin dealers who MUST keep coins on hand for their customers. And, the whole idea is to make money on the money you have invested in your stock. Most small dealers or shops cannot take the loss every time bullion prices drop and quite honestly I understand and do not blame them one bit! They will adjust their prices based on their NEXT order for any given product.
Edited by crystalk64 06/12/2006 10:03 am
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I understand that point of view but for the buyer looking to make an investment, $20 is too much for a 1oz. silver bullion coin which spots for nearly half that amount.
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Thanks Terry - you always explain things so well. I tend to get too dramatic!
nds76: Your option would be to find a local dealer or someone that either has older inventory or sells at a few bucks over spot based upon the current market. E-bay is sometimes inflated, for reasons that Terry stated, and because of e-bay fees, insurance, shipping, fuel to post office and so forth. Does that make sense to you? Terry - you can chime in any time!!!!
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Silver took another dip, now at $10.93/oz.!! Now is the time to buy...maybe if people are actually selling at that rate.
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If it's been falling that steadily, it may not be the best time to buy yet.
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They won't sell at spot unless it's really distressed. There have been people years ago that got art bars for the spot price from sellers who were just tired of looking at the stuff. But spot is the price for a handful of powder. There's a fabrication charge and a markup that goes with it. The best anyone one of us can do is to get silver with as fair a fabrication charge and markup as possible. If I think the charges and markup or shipping aren't fair, I just go for a walk. I haven't bought a art bar on ebay in about year. They've been charging too much for shipping; I'm not playing that game. Other than that, the sellers' loss is their problem! No one has a "right" to make profits. If your not a Airline, Insurance company or some other corporate "talent" you not even entitled to a welfare check from the gub-mint. Your only path to profits is to outwit markets.
Edited by longnine009 06/12/2006 6:48 pm
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I refuse to pay the high shipping costs on top of the already double the spot price of the maple leafs. I may wait until the price drops more. I don't want to play the game either.
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Well, I for one will just hold to my silver & gold. I won't sell at these prices. Interesting the way the "markets" have managed to "knock down" the prices of silver & gold. Not only that, the stock market has taken a HUGE bath the last 30 days. I for one will just hold onto what I got. Have not sold any of my silver when it high nor any of my gold nor any of my stocks--I'll just ride this mule until death---Just keep in mind, whatever goes UP must come DOWN eventually--BUT--Eventually what is down WILL go up. Makes no sense to me what has been happening. Many speculate that the Fed will be increasing the int rates--causing these insane drops--I for one will ride the mule again like last time I took a bath--Be warned tho, when the prices start to go back up, this time around I will sell and cash in, BIG, I will NOT sell cheap any more--For now I'll just watch yawl get ticked hehe  I am over it already, after loosing 10K this last month, you can't touch me.. 
Edited by CiScO 06/12/2006 7:18 pm
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I expected this drop as quite a few investors have had to be dumping on the market, taking their profits, as thats what it is all about isn't it? I know I sold a set of Eagles a couple of weeks ago that I had about $170.00 in and they turned $325.00 so I most definitely made a few bucks. I believe I put the set together and kept it updated since around 2004 as I like to keep an extra set for such dire emergencies! Now with prices dropping I will start another set for the same purposes. Have you SEEN the PRICE of the 1996 Silver Eagle at this time. Boy, talk about sticker shock!!!
Edited by crystalk64 06/12/2006 7:29 pm
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quote: Originally posted by longnine009
They won't sell at spot unless it's really distressed. There have been people years ago that got art bars for the spot price from sellers who were just tired of looking at the stuff. But spot is the price for a handful of powder. There's a fabrication charge and a markup that goes with it. The best anyone one of us can do is to get silver with as fair a fabrication charge and markup as possible. If I think the charges and markup or shipping aren't fair, I just go for a walk. I haven't bought a art bar on ebay in about year. They've been charging too much for shipping; I'm not playing that game. Other than that, the sellers' loss is their problem! No one has a "right" to make profits. If your not a Airline, Insurance company or some other corporate "talent" you not even entitled to a welfare check from the gub-mint. Your only path to profits is to outwit markets.
I guess that I just don't under that "No one has a "right" to make profits". Perhaps I'm reading this totally out of context. If that were the case then there would not be any coin dealers in the U.S. and selling my coins would not be an option as I don't have the "right" to make money on them except their numismatic value and no increase in bullion price over what I paid. OK, I'm done with collecting other than for the pure enjoyment and when I'm done - they get melted!
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I think what longnine009 was saying is actually that no one is entitled to a profit. In other words, you can make a profit, but you are not entitled to a profit. And I agree with that idea.
As for silver dropping in price: considering how poor the dollar and economy is going to do in the future, I will hold on to my silver. Understand that the "official" inflation and other economic figures are not really accurate. If they were accurate, it would make things worse, when people know it. Just a quick glance at food prices over the past year would show the decline in value of the dollar. As for the economy overall, when "manufacturing" now includes fast food restaurants making hamburgers, that should tell a lot about just how poor it really is when they have to do things like this to make the numbers look good...
I'm sure some will disagree with the above statements but time will prove that we are headed for the Second Great Depression some time in the future (though I am not sure of exactly when it will "strike"). We're in the modern day 1920's. Enjoy it while it lasts before "1929" gets here.
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"I think what longnine009 was saying is actually that no one is entitled to a profit. In other words, you can make a profit, but you are not entitled to a profit. And I agree with that idea".
Kinda shoots "free enterprise" right in the foot...oh well such is life!
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I don't understand how. The attitude of "entitlement" is socialist in nature, the idea that you may make a profit or lose money based on how wise or unwise your investment was is the more capitalist notion. In a capitalist system, you are not entitled to anything other than the freedom to try to get something. The emergence of socialist welfare programs, the "Great Society", big government, etc. has changed a lot of people's thinking on this, however, into an "entitlement" attitude where people feel they are "entitled" to whatever it is that they want. That is not a free enterprise/capitalistic system.
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