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 Posted 02/17/2010  6:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just thought I'd share a little section from my upcoming book. I found a beautiful example of contact verdigris today so I've added some pictures to this section:


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THE SPREADING OF VERDIGRIS

In some ways verdigris is like a bacterium or virus. It's obvious after looking at the chemistry involved that it can spread from coin to coin by contact. It's a simple matter of the verdigris infected coin being a donor of the corrosive elements. Since verdigris is an active spot on the coins surface that is constantly undergoing change based on composition, hydration and temperature, the chemical equilibriums dictate that some of the counter-ions (acetate, hydroxide, carbonate, etc.) will be present. If that verdigris stays in contact with a fresh copper surface, some of those ions will naturally migrate. Once they have moved to the new surface, cupric compounds will start to form producing new verdigris. As the spot is continually fed by the donor coin and by exposure to air and water, the verdigris will grow. Isolation of coins from the verdigris feed materials is of utmost importance to the numismatist!

Collectors should always separate verdigris infected coins and quarantine them! They will act as a catalyst for the continual formation of verdigris via ion migration.

Here's an example of how verdigris can spread by contact. This "mated-pair" was found inside of an old roll of coins. The coins were literally stuck together. The rest of the coins in the roll were in excellent condition so it is obvious that the verdigris on the problem coin prompted the formation of verdigris on the non-infected coin.

This is a picture from above the mated-pair:





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 Posted 02/17/2010  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Podoprigora to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice section, so just out of curiosity are you a chemist?
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 Posted 02/17/2010  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
is there any way to get rid of it? I have one like it and it has a huge die crack(im not sure but it looks like it)
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This is classified as heavy verdigris. Removal will only result in a cleaned coin.
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 Posted 02/17/2010  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well I'm willing to do this. any way to easily do this?
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There are lots of techniques....which is the reason I'm writting a book.

If you don't care about having a pitted and cleaned coin in the end, the easiest is to use acid. Soak it in some vinegar and keep a close eye on it. It's easy to leave in too long, but it will remove verdigris.
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i juts used soap, a sponge, and a pin(the pin was for some white stuff that wouldent come off with the soap or the sponge so I had to scrape it off)
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 Posted 02/17/2010  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh and by the way, can I have a copy of the book WHEN it is published?
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The book will be for sale....probably just by me to start. I think I'm going to make it an eBook initially.
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 Posted 02/24/2010  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afcop13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting.....so, verdigone is your doing?
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Yes, I am the inventor of VERDI-GONE™.
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