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 Posted 12/10/2011  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok Stewart..I'm confused(not uncommon!)...Wiles states the Micro-S is "common" on the 74-S CLAD Proof Ikes...is this still considered the case, or, has something changed? Like I said in the earlier thread, my Eskimo Boot CLAD Proof has the Micro-S...if it's common, than, so be it...if rare, that would be better!
Side note..it is harder and harder to find Brown Box, and, even Blue Pack Ikes at coin shows anymore...at a recent show, 95% of the dealers I asked "Sorry, I left them at the office", and don't bother taking them out anymore....I think a TON have been melted this year, when Silver almost hit 49 dollars in April....yikes...
Another side note...I wrote Rob E., of the Ike Group, and asked if he had any info on the sequence of 1974 Silver Ike Production...he did not, so, I'm still digging to find out when the coins were made...I'll write the guy that writes the Mint Blog daily report..maybe he can shed light on the story...a lot of mint records were destroyed in 1982, from what I read...
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 Posted 12/10/2011  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stewart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Calvin,
That is exactly the question that I was trying to figure out by posting
about this variety Which one was minted first the Cuni-Clad Proof
or the 40% Silver Proof. Nobody knows at this point.

I am truly sorry about the confusion on this variety of Ike.
I really thought this was common knowledge amongst the Ike enthusiasts.

Here is the extent of my knowledge of the Micro S Ike's

It started one night while looking through some articles on the
Ike Group web site. I ran across this write up
http://ikegroup.org/TWONEWCOLLECTIBLEIKES.htm

I knew that I had a couple of 74 Brown box Ike's in the safe, so
I dug them out and checked them and lo and behold I had a Micro "S"
in there.
Here is the thread where I found my 40% Silver Micro "S" on April 25th 2009
http://ikegroup.org/php3.0.2/phpBB/...63db277acf66

Then on Oct 25, 2010 I read a thread by Brian Vaile where he had
the idea that the Cuni-Clad proof and the 40% Silver Proof were
stuck with the same die and he had sent it to John Wexler and
he agreed with Brian and while Mr. Wexler had the coins in his
possession he identified 3 die markers that tied the coins to the
same die. The thread was started by Brian on Sep 15, 2010
Here is a link to that thread.
http://ikegroup.org/php3.0.2/phpBB/...09338a93fa4a

This is the thread that I posted the pictures and story behind
finding the my Cuni-Clad Micro "S"
In Brians response to the thread is when he posted the die markers
Mr. Wexler had found on the coins.
Direct copy from thread of list of die markers found by Mr. Wexler

Mr. Wexler came up with an "I agree with you 100%" and here are a couple of markers I found that PROVE they came from the same working die.
Here are the die markers Mr. Wexler came up with to help prove my case:
1. The first and easiest to find, is a curving die scratch just to the right of center of the ear.
2. Two small die gouges (dots) that can be found just to the right of the lower horizontal bar of the F in the FG.
3. A very small die gouge at the intersection of the base of the bust and the field below the base of the bust, directly north of the mint mark.



Link to thread: http://ikegroup.org/php3.0.2/phpBB/...63db277acf66

That is the extent of my knowledge of the Micro "S" variety
Ever since then it has been a question in my head as to which one
was minted first. Then when you posted one with and Eskimo Boot
it got me thinking if we can get enough pictures we may be able
to determine which one was minted first by looking at the "R" in
LIBERTY on them. for continuing advanced states of PegLeg that comes
for repeated die re-treatments. That is the idea anyway.
Now that I know that yours is a Cuni-Clad. I was under the
impression that it was a 40% Silver (Your not the only one that
gets confused )
I hope that this helps clear some things up. I still have the
question bouncing around my head
"Which came first, The Chicken or the Egg"
The 40% Silver or the Copper-Nickel Clad

Terry



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I found 2 MATCHING Die Ikes, in a recent ebay order..the 100-Ike order was all in flips, from a non-dealer, and, as suspected, were high-grade coins not usually found online...these 2 1972-D Ikes, Type-I, have the Doubled Die Obverse, DDO-OO2(Wiles), and a fairly large die crack through IGWT, "Common" reverse, yet massive die re-working/polishing to hide a very large "Moonline"(clash through craters, heading up into talons), and a "Jawline", off the Earth...the polish lines add to the nice original mint luster of this Ike, which will be off to Anacs in Jan 2012, in a large Ike order I have been accumulating..I'm hoping this gets at least an MS64/65...in all the thousands of Eisenhower dollar coins & orders I have scoured over, only 2 times have I encountered matching Die coins...the odds are just not in your favor to find them...every polish line matches like a champ..don'tcha love that! My guess is this Ike is in Mid-Die-State, and, was made with the older steel dies that cracked up fast, before the Mint switched to a newer, stronger steel for the dies. Finding an attributable DDO / DDR 72 Ike is tough, due to rapid die wear, which washes out the notching very fast...I have an NGC MS65 72-D Ike, attributed by Dr. Wiles as DDO-OO2, with a minor DDR, so, there are a few die marriages to collect on this coin.

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Hey guys. Just found this topic today, so I got these two Ikes from the bank and have just been calling them my Error Ikes. I love the '74 BERT Ike, I guess it was a greasy strike. The L is almost invisible. Sorry for pic quality, I just used an old scanner to take them and also working on a company Mac, which I'm not as proficient on as a pc. The '77s just a little off center on the obverse with a bit of the TY missing, but it's the only one I've got like that.

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 Posted 12/15/2011  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bishftl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
got this from teller at branch I've never been to.
aside from the gunk that won't come off it's in great shape.

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 Posted 12/19/2011  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stewart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Calvin VERY COOL Congratulations on the matching die Ike's
Very hard thing to run across.

Winkin and bishftl Always great to find Ike's at the bank


Winkin Is that 1977 an Off Center Strike ? VERY COOL
I have yet to find one of those yet.
I have been looking a long time too

I am not sure if I have posted this one before


Terry

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wow Terry--that is a beauty of a 71-S BLue Pack Ike...gotta be a MS66....unless there are hairlines we can't see..
just got an email from Brian V...I sent in a handful of possible RPM Ikes(very few have been attributed at Anacs..yes, they are considered pretty scarce, and, very few collector's can spot them, as most are small, compared to Lincoln Cent Rpm's, where large shifts can occur)...Brian said I have a 73-D & a 76-D which will qualify...my other project is Kennedy halves now, and, ordering boxes from the bank..1 tommorow to search..the thread for that on here is pretty amazing for finds, from zippo to Franklins, to commemoratives and proofs....should be fun, and, I am investigating all my 76-D's for RPM's, as they match the 76-D Ike, as far as notch in lower serif and such...will shoot pics and post later this week.
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Calvin,
Thank You, those 71 "S" silvers that are not beat to
death from being shipped in bags are far and few between.
No hairlines on this one what you see is what is there.

Congratulations on the RPM's
Brian is definitely the man when it comes to those after
spending entire summer searching them down.

71 and 72 Ike's are a specific passion of mine, especially
the ones from the Denver Mint. There seems to have been alot
going on there in those two years getting the Ike's up to speed.
Which got me looking at all coins coming out of Denver in 71 and 72
I ran across this thread the other day on the Error and Variety
section of this forum that you might find interesting
I know I did.

https://goccf.com/t/105035

Can't wait to see the pictures later this week

Terry
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Oops, sorry about that Stewart. That '77 is a misaligned die, only the obverse is off, the reverse is fine. The TY in Liberty is missing a bit though, along with a bit on the '77. I'll Keep My Eyes Peeled for RPMS Too! Good times!
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Winkin,
No need to apologize, I just did not know if you had noticed
the off center on the 77. And I did not want you to end up spending it
or just tossing aside. Many times I have had coins for a long period
of time and had not noticed something on it until someone else brought
it to my attention or looked it over for the thousandth time.

I finally had a chance to shot one of the nicer Ike's I found in the
last batch I purchased in the picture posted previously with the
1976 S 40% silver. Not too bad of condition for being in a plastic
container with a bunch of other Ike's

Terry

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 Posted 12/24/2011  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bishftl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
picked this up today



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HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL MY FELLOW IKE NUT'S

Taking some time today to look over this entire thread
WOW there is at least a book full of information about the
Ike series. And some of the most beautiful Eisenhower's
I have ever seen. I want to thank EVERYONE who has contributed to
this little corner of Coin Community.

One thing I got a good laugh about so far while reading
through this thread is on page 1
Chuckster posted the ONLY two Ike's that he owned at the time. My how
a little time changes things. Two of my favorite Ike's
I own came from him
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Nice find bishftl! Happy New Year everyone!
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Quote:
Taking some time today to look over this entire thread
WOW there is at least a book full of information about the
Ike series. And some of the most beautiful Eisenhower's
I have ever seen. I want to thank EVERYONE who has contributed to
this little corner of Coin Community.


I know I have not contributed much, but I do enjoy all of the finds, comments, and photos. Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.
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This is what I'd like to call a 1973-S Clad Proof. What I'm really excited about, however, is the dozen or so 1975 Mint Sets I just picked up from different sellers. Hoping to find some nice ones, maybe some early die state Ikes in MS65+

Not holding my breath, however.

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