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New Member
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Hi All. I'm new here, so be easy on me. I acquired this 1922 Lincoln. Based on everything that I read, it does not conform to the descriptions and images of a die combination 1 or die combination 3 coin, as the second 2 in the date is much weaker than the first on those die combinations. I believe it to be a die combination 2, where the second 2 in the date is as strong or stronger than the first. I believe this coins suffers from nothing more than lots of good honest wear... I would grade this as AG-3. Your thoughts?  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Let me ask did you get it off ebay from nancy913?
Edited by jokingjoker 02/24/2010 11:01 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I already know that you did so let me ask you this do you have the coin in hand yet?
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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by jokingjoker 02/24/2010 11:07 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: I would grade this as AG-3...Your thoughts?
Since it's a '22-D Lincoln, it's way better than AG-3. VG8 probably, but G06 at least. Looks to be re-colored also.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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What I found amazing in the last link was seeing BadThad in his learning stage compared to now
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks for the responses. A couple things. 1) As for the provided links related to "what others have said"... ebay today shows 5606 feedbacks in the last 12 months, only 1 of which was negative. I find it difficult to believe that there are that many un-knowledgeable collectors and I would think that if nancy913 was that "problematic", there would certainly be more than a single negative in the past year. 2)Copper is difficult to photograph unless one takes the time to calibrate their camera settings. If the coin color is indeed "unnatural", it goes back, and I miss the opportunity to get a die combination #2 1922 Plain Lincoln at a very good price. I'll keep you posted.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would like to know how it was listed. If listed as a 1922 no-D, then it is in error. This is a "weak-D" variety as you can definitely see the remains of the mintmark below the date. On the no-D varieties, no mintmark is visible.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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G-4, altered MM, cleaned and recolored to cover the tracks.
Get your money back if you can!
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Pillar of the Community
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Hate to say it, but I think Thad is dead on. Mag the pic and there is something worked on and appears intentionally blurred to mask it. Runnnnn!!
Jim
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It's likely a "Weak D" worth about $30. The price was too high for a raw piece. Quote: ...I would like to know how it was listed... Here's the listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/1922-LINCOLN-CE...-D_W0QQitemZ a href= https://www.coincommunity.com/go/link.asp?target=https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/330405714712 target= _blank rel= nofollow 330405714712 /a QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item4cedb71b18 I bought a few Lincolns from "nancye913" last year after reading about her here on CCF. After rinsing off her coloring, they turned out to be decent coins and since they were cheap, they were worth keeping.
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Valued Member
United States
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I may be stating the obvious but I think a lot of dealers on ebay intentionally take a bad photo, having said that though I have had a couple of really nice coins show up in the mail from dealers who posted a bad photo. Some do it intentionally and others just don't have the photographic skills to do a coin justice. Face it, coins are hard to photo and few can get the light just right. My rule of thumb is big time sellers should always post good photos, if not then something must be wrong with the coin. Mom and Pop sellers, and there are a lot, may be forgiven for a bad photo. I know someone who still posts photos from an old Sony Mavica on ebay. More of his photos are fuzzy than clear! By the way, I do appreciate the head's up on who to avoid.....
Edited by freewheel 02/25/2010 10:50 am
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New Member
 United States
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Good listing, bad listing, good photo, bad photo. I only bid if returns are allowed and the seller has a feedback rating of over 97% (to accommodate the few buyers who can never be pleased). As others on this thread have posted, some coins are keepers, some are not. I have only had one seller complaint to date that could not be resolved. In that incident, the ebay buyer protection program covered that.
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My thoughts? Quote: I find it difficult to believe that there are that many un-knowledgeable collectors Believe it. We see many of them here at Coin Community. I'm no Lincoln expert, but the first dozen auctions for circulated coins I looked at from this seller were so obviously recolored and/or polished that even I could see it. Even doctored, your Cent, if real, is worth plenty of money - I would suggest that it be authenticated by a reputable agency.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That coin looks to be bronzed. When did they start spray tanning coins?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: ...is worth plenty of money...
SuperDave I think you need to qualify that as "if it's a no D, it is worth plenty of money." The seller described it as a Weak/No D. Weak D means weak money or about 10% of the closing price of this auction. I'm guessing that when the artificial coloring is removed, it will be a weak D. If in fact it is a No D, then the price was acceptable.
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