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 Posted 06/16/2006  12:21 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kerry67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Let me just say that I enjoy this site very much. The only bad thing I can say about it is that you must have 50 posts to trade, buy or sell. I won't be doing much selling probably but I would like to buy. I posted a reply to someones listing and I was told I needed 50 posts before I could do that. All that is doing is taking a potential sale away from someone. I am going to hit my 50 posts eventually but I only post when I have something to say or need to ask something. I could reply to every post in one night but that would be stupid. It should be alright to do all of that stuff from the get go. I think it would make this place all the much better and maybe there would be more posting of stuff for sale or trade.
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 Posted 06/16/2006  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Kerry67, My name is toast. It's toast because I've been burned so many times that how I felt.
While I agree with you it's easy enough to reach 50 posts it does let members get to know a bit about the person before trading with them. It's a safty factor. If someone posts 50 silly posts and wants to sell a big item, I'd still be wary as the posts did not seem genuine. While reading a members 50 posts you get to know them a bit. Having read many members posts, I'd trust them with my collection, lol.
It must be remembered that the purpose of the forum is to talk coins. The trading of coins is a small side issue between members. This forum is not competing with ebay. lol.
Well, that's my opinion anyway. I'm not a moderator or anything and perhaps they can give you a better answer.
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 Posted 06/16/2006  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tpatna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Toast...its more of a saftey issue.
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 Posted 06/16/2006  01:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with toast.

And, by the way, I was wondering just today what "toast" meant. Now I know!
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06/16/2006 01:42 am
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 Posted 06/16/2006  03:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Kerry

Im the Mod that posted to you in the coins forsale forum,, This 50 post rule has been a part of the forum since its conception,, I can tell you that to date it has paid for itself many times over.

Its easy to tell that your intentions are honorable, and that you are straight up person which is evidenced by this thread, those are both things that I respect and encourage.

Please believe me when I said sorry I had to edit your post that was the truth I was sorry I had to edit your offer to buy , but the next time that someone wanted to buy with less than 50 posts, I could not justify editing their post and not yours, so please understand it is not a judgemental issue rather this is something that is applied evenly and fairly to all new members.And as you reach the 50 post minimum and above you can be sure that it is as much for your trading safety as it is for all of the other members here on CC.

Rick



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 Posted 06/16/2006  03:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigfella to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say keep the 50 post minimum. That way we know you are serious.
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 Posted 06/16/2006  03:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not fair to bash upon such rule. Other forums too do have similar rules and that is not likely to change.

If you are seriously interested in the field, I cannot see why 50 posts is extremely difficult. Perhaps if you post 2 per day, that will be done in a month.

You must understand, to gain trust is to let others know you first. Else, why should I purchase something from you, when I could have purchase off from a person that I could meet face to face?
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 Posted 06/16/2006  04:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add humpybong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Kerry, you only have 41 to go.....start posting.

What do you collect
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 Posted 06/16/2006  05:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think kerry says it is difficult to post 50, it's just possible that someone with "different" intensions can post 50 in a very short time.

But the that's actually the thing of 50 posts Kerry, 50 post at least gives some idea about the member.
Think it this way, if you were the seller, would you rather sell to a brand new member or someone that has said something previously.

Of course on the net risks are always present. The rules state that even if the potential buyer has 50+ posts, the seller may choose not to trade with her/him.
But I also understand that not everyone feels like posting so frequent, still may like to buy something before enough posts.
Although that is actually between the seller and buyer, it is not encouraged in order to have safe trades with whom you meet in the forum.

Since there's no ID verification or anything else here, 50 posts limit is the least to do.
Without that rule, it may lead to unpleasant experiences.

It's for our own protection
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toast's Avatar
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 Posted 06/16/2006  06:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it also has protected the forum from scam sellers who would not be bothered posting fifty posts. There are easier ways to con a buyer, ebay for example.

The forum would likely get spammed by dealers trying to make a quick buck and then just change ID to do it again. 50 posts says your interested in collecting as a hobby and related subjects. That is 50 good posts. Anyone who does 50 silly posts in a day or two would raise a few eyebrows as soon as they wanted to trade.

As a hobby, coin collectors need patience. You may miss out on getting a coin, but you can be sure that same year and condition coin will be around again.
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 Posted 06/16/2006  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Margaret to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Kerry,

Trust is a hard thing to come by on the internet especially when money is involved. I think the 50 post rule helps weeds out the scammers. Thats not to say as you posted that some one couldn't make 50 posts in a short time just for the purpose of making a quick buck.

I think letting anyone join and sell/trade/buy immediatly would just invite the bottom feeders in to take advantage of the whole group. The board would proably be over run with "great deals" and fly by night scammers. It might take a little while to get your 50 posts but I think by doing so you get a good feel for the other members and you have a higher level of confidence in the exchange you wouldn't get from someplace like ebay.

Hope to see more of your posts here and enjoy the community. It's certainly a wonderful place to learn.

Margaret
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 Posted 06/16/2006  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aidan Work to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kerry,I like the 50 post minimum,as it is just so easy to post way past that in a relatively short time.If you have a special skill,such as having a knowledge of languages,you can put it to very good use,plus boosting your post count at the same time.

I'm a bit like you to a certain degree,as I buy off a few people.In my younger days,I was buying a lot of stuff,but nowadays,I buy a bit,but it is due to the fact that I have to restrain myself as far as money goes.I'm very selective about what I am buying.

Aidan.
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 Posted 06/16/2006  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greekandromancoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the 50 post minimun, it stops purely commercial "spam-like" posts. If there were no restrictions, I imagine there would be a significant number of one-time posters.

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 Posted 06/16/2006  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My relatively extensive online trading experience (buying, selling and moderating) tells me that it's imperative to have some sort of control over the hit-and-run troll, which is far and away the most common type of ripoff extant.

In my other area of interest, geekery, this is accomplished by a combination of fairly strict registration requirements and extensive databases of trading evaluations which are independantly controlled and number thousands of transactions across many fora. The system has been in place for many years, and users know the importance of checking someone's references, and how to act in situations when such references aren't available.

In numismatics, we aren't so lucky to have such a database. Worse, there's a greater prevalence of folks who would cheerfully take advantage of the buyer. And we're not just talking a few dollars here, either, but numbers into the thousands.

Kerry67, I believe you'd be more supportive of the 50-post rule if you had a clearer idea of just how bad the problem is. My best recommendation is to take advantage of having joined such a friendly and supportive forum as Coin Community, and establish yourself among us. I believe you'll enjoy the process.
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 Posted 06/16/2006  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All of the comments are excellent and full of truth and common sense! The 50 post minimum is quite easy to reach and it's amazing how just those little comments show the interest and honesty of the member(s). Once you really get into this forum you will see that 50 posts comes rather rapidly. In the meantime, it's ok to sit back, enjoy and learn. Even the old timers have gained knowledge from this forum - I have!

OK, so I'm not THAT old...just old enough to have gained a lot of patience!

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06/16/2006 10:43 am
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 Posted 06/16/2006  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ichirensha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I understand the rule but I agree with Kerry67 and don't like it. I've been a member for about four months and have visited the sight almost everyday since joining but have less than 15 posts. I've seen many members get their 50 posts in two or three days and jump right in with buying, selling, trading and participating in contests. In the members list, there are two and a half pages of members with 50 or more posts and there are 19 pages of those with less than 50 posts. So as usual, it's the few elitists that rule. There are hundreds and hundreds out there like me and Kerry67 that feel alienated. It just doesn't give you a warm and fuzzy feeling being on the outside looking in.
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