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Pls Help Me With ID This Coin | Fake British Trade Dollar

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Pls help me to ID coin

Pls-Help-Me-With-ID-This-Coin-|-Fake-British-Trade-Dollar

Pls-Help-Me-With-ID-This-Coin-|-Fake-British-Trade-Dollar

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Its a British Trade dollar minted (I think) in India.

Will see if I can find anymore info on it as I'm concerned that the 'D' in DOLLAR is the wrong way around - It may be a fake?
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03/03/2010 2:27 pm
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I checked the Standard World Catalog, the Trade dollar supposed to be in silver. Mints in Bombay (B) and Calcutta (C), India.
Mint marks did not appear on some early 1895-1900 issues as indicated.
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These were minted in India. If a coin was minted in Bombay it will have a 'B' on the centre prong of Britannias trident. If they were minted in Calcutta they have a 'C' near the base of her shield. Your coin appears to have a mark on the centre of the trident but its hard to say if that is / is the remnants of a mint mark.

The problem with this coin is the fact that the 'D' in DOLLAR is the wrong way around and that whatever it is made out of its not .900 silver.

I'd say this is a fake or some kind of deliberate test piece (hence the 'D')?
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It is a British Trade dollar B. I thought they were silver not a bronze colour? If you have a very close look at the trident Britannia is holding in the center prong it might say a letter B(which it should), if not then look at the space between the left foot and the shield for a C, if it has neither that is sometimes a way to tell a fake from a original. Also if it is a real original it should weigh about 27 grams.
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You got to it before me!, you could also check its magnetism, if it is magnetic its a fake if it isn't theres a good chance its real.
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I think we have to call it 3 way tie!

The Britannia side of this coin looks very odd - almost as if it were over-struck onto something else. Although this is certainly not real I think it could be interesting enough for a collector to want it - A lot of people collect contemporary copies along with their coins.
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IMO this coin is a Chinese fake, made to look old and worn.
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Ok Thanks . Can you give some idea of real price for this coin?
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A genuine coin in this apparent condition would only be worth bullion value - at 0.78 ounces, currently about US$13.50.

The price for this fake? A dollar or two at most - the typical price for modern Chinese fakes.
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Not to disagree with Sap - but from the appearance the forgery is Contemporary. The brass cores that were plated in silver or dipped in mercury were commonly produced in the period around the turn of the century. The technology is very familiar to me.

The modern Chinese copies do not use a yellow brass core - they use a white metal often steel or nickel.

This coin would not be magnetic and to a period collector would be worth as much or more than an original.
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