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Unc 1918 Lincoln Commemorative In Cellphane - Huh?

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Earlier tonight I enquired as to the year that the U.S. mint began distributing UNC coins in cellophane or the plastic-wrapped equivalent thereof. http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...61148#478810

Guidance from the group set the year(s) circa 1955-1959.

I don't know much about commemoratives, but given this, can someone please kindly explain this item :
http://cgi.ebay.com/GEM-UNC-1918-LI...NR_W0QQitemZ230442421445QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item35a7704cc5QQautorefreshZtrue

Thanks, kindly.
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 Posted 03/04/2010  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
(My apologies for the typo in the title.)
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 Posted 03/04/2010  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfwitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Someone has just sealed them in plastic.Not a difficult thing to do with a sealer.I don't believe celophane was even invented yet in 1918.Hahah
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03/04/2010 10:17 pm
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Yeah Halfwitty is probably right, I will also vouch that this is a good seller, based on my multiple experiences with them in the past.
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Nice coin.
I don't think that is original packaging. This coin is often called a Lincoln commemorative but is officially a 1918 Illinois Centennial half dollar.

To me that looks like a common manila envelope in more modern cellophane. Not to take anything away from that coin it looks very nice to me. Mine is AU that I paid $110 for.
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Envelope possibly but not cello.Remember plastic is a reletively new product.The 40's I believe and that was a bakelite type product not a plastic as we know it now.Heck,when I was a kid in the 60's milk came in glass or cardboard,not plastic.
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 Posted 03/04/2010  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hence the enquiry about cellophane earlier.

Thanks for the guidance.
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Welcome.
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Cellophane was first used in the US in 1912 as a wrapper by Whitmans Candy
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Dupont made the first cellophane in the U.S. in 1924.Previously it was imported from France.The mint certainly didn't use it to wrap coins in 1918.
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Quote:
Cellophane was invented by Swiss chemist Jacques E. Brandenberger while employed by Blanchisserie et Teinturerie de Thaon. In 1900, inspired by seeing a wine spill on a restaurant's tablecloth, he decided to create a cloth that could repel liquids rather than absorb them. His first step was to spray a waterproof coating on to fabric, and he opted to try viscose. The resultant coated fabric was far too stiff, but the clear film easily separated from the backing cloth, and he abandoned his original idea as the possibilities of the new material became apparent.

It took ten years for Brandenberger to perfect his film, his chief improvement over earlier work with such films being to add glycerin to soften the material. By 1912 he had constructed a machine to manufacture the film, which he had named Cellophane, from the words cellulose and diaphane ("transparent"). Cellophane was patented that year. The following year, the company Comptoir des Textiles Artificiels (CTA) bought the Thaon firm's interest in Cellophane and established Brandenberger in a new company, La Cellophane SA.

So based on this that could well have been the original plastic used on that coin. If so, that plastic would probably be worth more than the coin since it lasted that long.
However, if you look closely at the photo, that package looks very much like those plastic little bags sold at many ocin stores for coins.
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