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I see that there are 4/1's for this year.Does it look like that to anyone else but me? I'm looking at the closeness of the 2 and 4 is supposed to be one of the markers as well as the doubling on the 4.Thanks for the opinions.  Edited by Halfwitty
03/11/2010 07:48 am
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Here's the date on my 1824 over 1. The closeness does look the same but I don't see the change in the top of the 4 that appears to be the top of the underlying 1 on my coin. (This is a tricky overdate though. It took me quite a while to find on that actually looked like an overdate. I didn't believe anyone else's word that their coin they were selling was an overdate unless I actually could see it).  Edited by Moe145
06/15/2010 5:09 pm
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I've looked at the pics in Heritage and the regular dates have much more of a space between the 2 and four.It looks as though the outline of the one is visible on the inside of the four.
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It is NOT either of the 24/1 varieties (O-101, 102) There isn't enough of the coin shown to identify the variety, but I'd say it is O-106, 113, or 114 and I'd lean toward one of the latter two.
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It is an O-113 conder but I thought the Overton number had to do with the reverse?
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The Overton number has to do with the PAIRING of an obv and rev die. In the case of your coin both O-113 and 114 have the same obv die and the difference between the two is that they have different rev dies. On other varieties you can have different Overton numbers with the same rev die but different Obv dies. So the number changes whenever either one of the dies change.
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I see.So is that the reason that the 2 and 4 are located so close together to make it look to be a 4 over something?
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Not enough of the date to tell anything other than it is not 106, could be 101, 102, 113, or 114. Need the whole date, and the reverse.
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03/13/2010 1:59 pm
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Need pictures of the reverse, and the entire obverse.
I guess I should have read the entire thread first. I see that you have already figured it out. Please excuse me.
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03/13/2010 2:02 pm
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1824/1 Bust Half O-101 R2
Some diagnostics for 1824/1 O-101 R2:
Obverse: Star 1 points to upper half of dentil. "4" is cut over previous "1", flag of "1" showing left and right of "4". "2" and "4" are very close.
Reverse: Upper right serif of "U" is higher than upper left serif of "N". Curved top of "5" is higher than "0". Centering dot between crossbars 4 & 5 at left. "I" centered under left side of "T".
Need more of the coin pic.
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The O-101, 102, 106, 113, and 114 all have the 2 and 4 very close together. Once you note the spacing of the 2&4 the quick way to separate out the 4/1 obv found on 101 and 102 is to note where the 4 point to on the curl above it. On the bottom of that curl there is a distinct notch. On the 4/1 obv the 4 points tot he right of that notch. On the 106, 113, and 114 it points to the left of that notch.
So if the 2 and 4 are very close and the 4 points to the right of the notch you have a 4/1. And if you find a 4/1, flip it over and look at the end of the arrow feathers. If they are over the center of the 5 you have the 101. But if they are over the tip of the 5 you have the 102 which is an R-5 coin and one of the two rarest of the 1824 halves
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Conder101 wrote: Quote:
On the 4/1 obv the 4 points to the right of that notch. Is this what you're talking about?  |
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This what you mean, Conder?   |
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