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What say you? I see some damage near the center of the reverse, but 395.00 shipped seems reasonable for this coin, which has a mintage of 121,394.

What's the chances that PayPal's going to have to recover my investment because it's fake? It looks real enough to me that I pulled the trigger.

Having said all of that...I believe it's real, VF-20, and been cleaned...as well as the reverse damage. I found one on Heritage with the lower left serif of the "T" in "liberty" missing just like this one....which makes me feel a bit better. Actually, Browning lists 5 varieties, and they all have that serif missing.

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 Posted 03/14/2010  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't know a lot about this series, but it looks OK. I'd agree with VF-20 good deal for only $395.
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 Posted 03/14/2010  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good to me although I believe it may have been cleaned in the past.
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 Posted 03/14/2010  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it's been cleaned in the past too...which I mentioned. I like it though, and it's a tough coin to buy in this shape for that kind of money. I'd rather tolerate the old cleaning and reverse damage than have one in G-4 with no problems.

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 Posted 03/14/2010  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Further research would seem to suggest that this is variety B-1, with an R-4 rarity rating.

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 Posted 03/14/2010  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oimcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good deal on this coin. I would snatch it up if I were you.
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Forgive me if I am wrong but the lettering/details just look weird to me on this one, I would check to make sure its not fake or something.

Oh I just read the OP...I would say theres a good chance = (
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 Posted 03/14/2010  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did buy it....and am comfortable that it's genuine.

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 Posted 03/16/2010  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add busthalf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VF-20
This is a nice coin
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Have you compared vs photos on heritage? I don't want to be a killjoy, but it does look suspicious to me. Maybe its just the way the cleaning affected the coin.
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I've spent much time on heritage looking at these. I am confident that it's real. Take a look at this one....also a B-1. I was downtown helping a buddy of mine with his computer, and after seeing my own material on his monitor....I am reminded of how much different "what you see"...can be from "what I see". Monitor setting are very important.

It appears a bit "soft" in the details...but that could be due to poor photography, since I had to enlarge these...or it could be from the cleaning. I'll snap some pictures on friday when she arrives.

http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...=7676&src=pr

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Still looks pretty different to me, but yeah that could be the photograph/the cleaning. The way the date matches up is good, I guess I just meant that a lot of the lettering/details look more...'artificial' if that makes any sense.
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I think it's probably from having been "thumbed" that the devices have a slightly polished look to them. Check out the missing serif on the lower bottom of the letter "T" in Liberty. All 5 varieties exhibit that anomally. It'll get a rigorous going over when it gets here.

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It looks genuine to me but does have a polished appearance. I'd say VF details.

$395 is cheap for this coin even with the problems noted.

I love the heraldic eagle reverses.
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This coin arrived this morning and I am satisfied that it is real, it's been thumbed which gives it a polished appearance. It weighs just over 6.5 grams, and is 27.3mm in diameter, which is within tolerance for a circulated example worn to this extent.

In 1805 there were 5.3 million people in the US, so if a person was only allowed one of these, just one person in 40 would have one.

The US flag wasn't very cluttered back then...having just 15 stars.

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Nice coin, I agree with VF grade, does look like someone tried to spiff it up a bit, but still an overall good buy.
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