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 Posted 04/05/2010  12:15 am Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This one's a curious piece - any ideas?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1885-INDIAN-CEN...OR_W0QQitemZ170468788048QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item27b0bb4750
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 Posted 04/05/2010  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfwitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks to be a struck through and by the pics of the edge I believe it's legit.
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 Posted 04/05/2010  12:34 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree it's struck thru *something*. any clue what? it looks like cloth, but it wouldn't have that shape. It looks like it was something round, but it wasn't another coin.
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 Posted 04/05/2010  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
maybe a button?
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 Posted 04/05/2010  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfwitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's hard to say.Looks as though another planchet slid in after the coin was struck and then it was struck again.
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 Posted 04/05/2010  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorear to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could of been a piece of very thin metal like tin. Something round like a cent.
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 Posted 04/05/2010  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting. I'd think that something as thick as another planchet would prevent any reverse strike at all, so whatever got in there must be thinner.
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I'm thinking that the other planchet slid in AFTER the coin was struck and caused the die to strike again.It may have just stuck in the die.
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 Posted 04/06/2010  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like it was struck through a split planchet. Another planchat slpit into two layers due to a severe lamination and one of those thin layers got between the dies along with this coin. The thinness of the split planchet allowed the design to show through. Superdave is right on that, a full thickness planchet would have just resulted in an indentation with no design bleed through.

Striking through another planchet as a second strike would have resulted in a flattening of the design, but not a blurring, also there would probably be traces of the second strike in those area not protected by the other planchet.
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 Posted 04/07/2010  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am at as much a loss as anyone else, but. I believe the blank was not completely punched thru, , and shifted in the opposite direction of the crescent, then was completely punched out. I don't know what the upset mill would have done to the ends of the crescent but, the rest of the coin looks like it was struck thru a rag, a very greasy rag.
The thin looking area at the edge K-12 position, migh have been the "soft area opposite a Cud on the reverse. It is anybodys guess. Mike Diamond might have a good explanation for this coin.
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