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1910 St Gaudens $20. M-66

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 Posted 04/05/2010  7:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add josephine to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,
Someone I know supposedly bought a 1910 st gaudens $20 m-66. It was slabbed by the NNC. This person was told he was getting a steal because there are only 4 inthe world and it's worth $50,000. He paid $8000. I can tell you the people that sold it to him. Was this a major rip_off? How might I found out how much the coin is really worth?
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 Posted 04/05/2010  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
P S I forgot to say that this coin is supposed to be a p not a d
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 Posted 04/05/2010  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the person definitely got ripped off. Most likely the coin is worth in the $2000 range. NNC is a basement slabber and is not reputable.
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 Posted 04/05/2010  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TDColl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NNC? 8k? Oh dear.
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 Posted 04/06/2010  01:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your friend is about to learn a very expensive lesson.
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 Posted 04/06/2010  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your feedback. He's going to return the coin.
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 Posted 04/06/2010  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
make sure he sends it back with signature confirmation and the whole package, etc. This way they cant claim nonreceipt and double burn him. Please do tell who sold it to him, also.
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Tell your friend to stick with PCGS,NGC,ANACS,or ICG. By the way, the seller has no idea what he's doing. At least that is what it sounds like.
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NNC self grades there own holders and are at least 3 grades over the actual grade and are often problem coins..just check out the TPG section on this site for additional information....
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NNC is another in the long line of what are known as third world grading services.
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The biggest problem I see in all of this is that your friend didn't seem to do even a basic amount of research before making this purchase. I don't mean to sound harsh, but buying coins, especially online, is about as "buyer beware" as it gets. Tell him to get a RedBook at the very least. It is easy to look up in the RedBook and see that all three types of 1910 St. Gaudens only go for about $1500 in MS-63 in that book. Even accounting for the increased value of gold we are talking maybe $2000 or so.

It is very important NOT to trust claims made by the seller along the lines of "only 4 in the world". Coins that rare do not sell for $50,000. They go for 10 times that at least. For example, there are 13 1933 St. Gaudens in existence. The one that was for sale in 2002 went for $7.6 million dollars! Similarly, the 1913 Liberty Head Nickel is known from only 5 coins. One just sold a few months ago for $3.7 million. THAT is the kind of money 4 of a kind coins go for.
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NNC stay away
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 Posted 04/14/2010  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NNC = No (k)nowledge of coins (or spelling)
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