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Now, if the argument was that the Franklin would still be in production if it wasn't for Kennedy dieing, I'd say if Roosevelt hadn't died we still might have Mercury dimes!
Although I feel giddy at that notion, it is not exactly the same thing. I will expand my reasoning and why it applies to Franklin and not the Mercury dime.

This is my opinion only and to the best of my knowledge was not a factor in the decisions made by the forum administration.

I personally believe that the division between the modern and classic era is simple. It occurs when a design moved from using Liberty to images of real people on the obverse.

The Mercury dime, having an image of Liberty, is a classic coin.

The Franklin half dollar, having an image of a real person, is a modern coin.

Mercury was destined to be replaced with a real person, the Franklin was not. One might argue "But what if Liberty survived on the dime and half dollar and was still being used today?" Well, they did not, so I do not have to consider that.

What happened, happened. Liberty was replaced with effigies, so that is where I draw the line.

Again, just the way I look at it.
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Lots of opinions, and all valid in their own right imo. I see where you guys are coming from. So then the last "classic" coin produced would have been the 1948 walking liberty? And the first "modern" coin produced was the 1909 Lincoln Cent? I guess what irks me a bit is the fact that there is such a large overlap between classic/modern as far as the actual age of the coin is concerned.
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I like jbucks reasoning, but am not sure where it falls with regards to the Buffalo nickel and some of the gold coins. Oh, and the 2c.
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I would say that the Buffalo nickel is unquestionably a classic design.
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Wow! I didn't realize my slight (yet, oh so, subtle) dig at the "Big Forum Gods" was going to turn into a monumental discussion of "what's classic" and "what's not" in the US numismatic community.



But I like it...

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Yeah, it's all your fault Moe! I think I pretty much agree with everything but wheat cents. Maybe someday I will conform to the group opinion, but for now I'm rebelling. I just can't see my 1909-s vdb as a modern.

Now watch, the moderators will move all my lincoln threads from the classic forum to the modern forum and put me in my place...
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I guess what irks me a bit is the fact that there is such a large overlap between classic/modern as far as the actual age of the coin is concerned.
Each denomination has its own Classical and Modern eras!


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...but am not sure where it falls with regards to the Buffalo nickel and some of the gold coins.
One could say that a generic Native American is symbolic of Liberty. That may be pushing it, but it is most definitely not an official effigy of an actual person.
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