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Colonial Coin? | Swedish Livonia Solidus 1653

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Does anyone know anything about this silver coin?

Colonial-Coin?-|-Swedish-Livonia-Solidus-1653

Colonial-Coin?-|-Swedish-Livonia-Solidus-1653

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 Posted 04/17/2010  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andyg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a Solidus from Livonia, issued during the Swedish occupation of Riga, looks to be from (16)53, KM#21
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I understand they were used in the states for early currencey,correct andy?
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Well, here's one you don't see too often. It's from Swedish-occupied Livonia, a former Polish territory currently divided between Estonia and Latvia. The coin is a solidus, or schilling, from the reign of Queen Christina (1632-1654). The coin is dated, at 7 to 8 o'clock in the lower of your two pics; I believe the date on yours is "53" (1653). Listed in my 2003 edition of the 1600's Krause under "Livonia" as KM# 21, CV $8 in fine.

On the obverse (top pic), we have a crowned C with a sheaf of wheat, the badge of the House of Vasa, inside it. Legend CHRISTINA D: G: R: S.

On the reverse (bottom pic, rotate 90 degrees clockwise to make it right way up) we have the simplified arms of Livonia: two crossed keys, with a small cross above them. Legend SOLIDVS CIVI RIGA 53.
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Does it say how much it should weigh and the silver content Sap?
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Whoah, I've got to type faster. Or be more succinct.

Were they used in the American colonies? Highly likely. Riga was an important city during the Swedish occupation and supplied much of the funding for Sweden's colonial ambitions - which included the American colony of New Sweden, now known as Delaware and Pennsylvania. Wilmington was originally named "Fort Christina" after the monarch named on your coin.
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Does it say how much it should weigh and the silver content Sap?

No info about weight or fineness; it just says "silver".
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Rats. Thanks much Sap.
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I often think that if it was round and metal it was used in the States for early currency, as to evidence of what exactly was used, well, that seems rather sketchy.
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Any idea where I would find a weight on this thing?
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Can't really add anything much to what Sap has posted.
They are low grade silver, and they were made by rolling a thin sheet of metal between two rollers (quite an unusual method of producing coins)
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When I get it in hand I will share more but I was told this one is quite thick for this coin.
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sorry, I thought you had the coin.
My coin weighs in at just about 1g, it really is quite thin, about half as thick as a US cent.
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