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Fractional Currency?

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Poll Question
we haven't made a new poll for a while now so I decided to make one.

so, should we go back to Fractional currency?

Ive seen it before and it looks really cool, and I think we need a twist in our nations currency since we haven't in like 150 years (or something like that)

soooooo

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YES fractional currency should definently replace coins! 0% 0 Votes
NO I like the coins! 89% 16 Votes
LETS KEEP BOTH! 11% 2 Votes

Poll Status: Open
Total Votes: 18 Counted
Last Vote: 04/30/2010 04:57 am
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04/25/2010 11:03 am
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I have 8 pieces of fractional currency fron the civil war but put one note for sale here and nobody even looked at my post.Good luck Lafaa.
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I think its actually more likely that the 500 dollar bill will be reintroduced at somepoint, and the one dollar bills withdrawn from circulation. I also think a 5 dollar coin might someday see circulation again, if demand from the vending machine industry ever gets hold.

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I do not think Americans would like to keep their coinage.
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When we get fractional currency, it will be half a mega$ or a quarter 0f a Tetra$.
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i dont understand y there was a Half Dime and a nickle in the same year, but fractional was kinda odd.
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i dont understand y there was a Half Dime and a nickle in the same year...


Short and simple answer... overlap in Authorizations by Congress.
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zalbad,

That wasn't too unusual back then. There were 1856 and 1857 Large and Small cents. There are 1909 Indian Head cents. Similarly there are 1883 Shield nickels and 1883 Liberty Head nickels.
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The only thing stopping the Federal Reserve from printing "fractional currency" right now is the law. Section 16 Paragraph 8 of the Federal Reserve Act stipulates the denominations they're allowed to issue: $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100, $500, $1,000 $5,000 and $10,000.

So they can "go big", but they can't "go small" without getting the Act changed. "Fractional currency" would be lucrative for the Fed; if the Law hadn't prohibited them from issuing it, you'd already be using it now.

The Fed isn't the only note-issuing authority in your country. There's nothing to stop the US Treasury itself issuing "red-seal" fractionals. The current limit on red seal notes is $300 million, only a small proportion of which is currently being used, but $300 million doesn't go as far as it did back in the 1800's when that limit was set. As well, Congress could always create entirely new monetary laws to issue the notes under.

I didn't vote in the poll because, frankly, both coins and notes are "old technology". If there's going to be "a twist in our nations currency", you're far more likely to see something entirely new replace them both.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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The only thing stopping the Federal Reserve from printing "fractional currency" right now is the law. Section 16 Paragraph 8 of the Federal Reserve Act stipulates the denominations they're allowed to issue: $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100, $500, $1,000 $5,000 and $10,000.


Wow... how does sap know about everything?
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I didn't vote in the poll because, frankly, both coins and notes are "old technology". If there's going to be "a twist in our nations currency", you're far more likely to see something entirely new replace them both.


For many that will be unfortunate but it is the future. Our monitary system the way it is now is doomed. Europe is now trying to unify their monitary system with one type of money. That already disposed of many of their old coins and currency. Due to the constant intercountry trading, our monitary system must be abandoned too for something more universal. A one monitary system per country is just way to cumbersom and irritating and just eventually must be lost.
I suspect that in the near future all transactions will be electronic and no more coins or currency will be used anywhere. I used to laugh at my son when he mentioned how carrying money is a thing of the past. Now I too seldom use coins or currency. I pay for clothing, food, gas, all household bills such as gas, water, phone, etc with credit cards. Those too are paid from an electronic banking system. The only place I now use coins or currency is for tips at a restaurant and in some places that too is just added on to the bill.
Very soon some kid will say "Hey gramps, what was that stuff you old people used to carry called money?"
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I guess I'm misunderstanding "fractional currency." I dont support coin values that are fractions of a whole, etc. if that's what youre calling fractional currency.

I dont support the return of fractional currency either.

The population using the Euro is about the same population of the USA. We (the USA) and the EU have our economies...ours within the 50 USA and theirs within the EU.

The British refuse to move away from sterling.

I dont think or believe our standard (and primary)currency denominations are going to change any time soon.

the cent, nickel, and dime have been pretty useless for anything but "change" over the last 30 years (maybe even longer). Yet, we still love them even though we rarely use them.

I also think the USA has more currency in circulation that they can back. I would begin to worry more if we decided to change our currency standards or print larger currency denominations.

My disclaimer: I'm no economist.



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just carl: How sad that you do everything by credit card. I don't want to make assumptions but maybe you're forgetting the value of money itself - it's not purely numbers. It should represent something tangible. A unified monetary system for more than one country is scary. NO THANK YOU! There's already the US dollar for trading world-wide.
I don't see the big deal in carrying coins around, but then again I carry $2 coins and not rolls of quarters. I think it's plain brainwashing and customs. If you tried to take away the Canadian dollar, for example, we wouldn't get any international trade done because we aim for a weaker dollar. (Better bang for your "buck" here at Hudson's Bay.)
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i dont understand y there was a Half Dime and a nickle in the same year,

The nickel was actually intended to be a TEMPORARY suppliment for the silver Half Dime which had disappeared from circulation due to the widespread hoarding of gold and silver coinage during the Civil War era. Once the economic difficulties ended they planed on discontinuing the nickel five cent piece and returning to the Half Dime. But the conditions lasted a lot longer than expected and the larger size of the coppernickel coin was very popular. (Which if you have ever tried to handle Half Dimes you would understand completely.) So when the coinage laws were re-codified in 1873 they took the opportunity to eliminate the Half Dime and make the five cent permanent. If the re-write of the laws had come a couple of years later it might have been the nickel five cent that was eliminated. (Around 1874 the hoarded and exported silver coinage began returning with a vengence. With silver again being readily available it might have been difficult to retain the base metal coin. This was still an era that believed only gold and silver were real money.
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