1828 Manila Counterstamp 8 Reales

Jfransch is correct in saying it's pomegranate.
Pomegranate were believed to be the forbidden
fruit mentioned in the bible just most of us
believed it was apple.
The fruit, according to the author of the award-
winning book Philippine Counterstamped Coins
symbolizes the union of the reigns of Leon,
Castille, and Granada. (page 23)

Sir Pandesalapi, Wow. Your coins look really nice. Thanks for sharing the info on these coins. Newbies like me will learn a lot from your postings. More power to you Sir!

Thanks Bagets & Leafar.
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Chops: Though there was an 1830 Manila in an uncirculated condition sold at an auction in the U.S.A. and I have seen and got hold of an 1828 Manila authenticated by PCGS in an extremely fine condition (it is being posted in a website) none of them has complete details. Because the manner of counterstamping were not perfectly done, and the looks of the coins were not that nice. I guess not so many became interested before to keep it as a collectible. Imagine the actual mintage of an 1828 Manila Overstrike fetched at 72,820 pcs (based on archival documents studied by Doc Q.)and yet the estimated existence of these coins were even lower than the assumed numbers of 1906-s USPI one peso. My guess is that - because of its appearance, most of these overstrikes were just kept on the melting pot to recover its silver content. You will also notice during the late 60's (based on books) that the price at those times of the above coin were not that considerable compared to its contemporary rarities.
I have also seen the picture of the only extant copy of the 1829 Manila 8 escudos gold - and it only looks "fine" condition to me. Though the Manila inscription is complete, the only visible on its date is 829. On its obverse side, you can see a very faint crown. You may also imagine its 7,500 pcs mintage. It means that except for one, all the gold Manila Countertamped 8 escudos were forced into melting pots too.
I hope we find Manila CS even in an EF condition Chops

to the community ram96
If your manila 1828 coin does have some missing letters which are normal on any counterstamps because of the manner they were are manually made, missing details does have some effect on its value but on a minimal level say 2-5 percent maybe depending on the nature of the coin and CS itself. Still your coin is one of the less than two hundred pieces in existence nowadays.
We would appreciate if you can post its picture because we all love to look into your coin's picture

Fantastic - I love it!

Because of the sharp details on its obverse, particularly the Cross of the Crown, the absence of letter "A" of MANILA in the coin's reverse side will not affect much on its cost.
Its a very nice 1828 Manila CS. How I wonder how much did you acquire it and when?

As a gift ... WOW
Based on previous auction both by Heritage and Stacks, price ranges around $1,300 up.
But the actual selling here in the Philippines usually fetches over $1,900. Reason for having a much higher value here I guess is the fact that demand here is much higher. Rarely do do we encounter nowadays to find these Manila Counterstamped coins being auctioned at our local coin clubs. I hope this coming Sunday (International Auctions) April 3,2011 we can see some that would surface-out at the market. These Manila CS runs at par with the rare 1906-s USPI one peso in terms of its value.

Yes it is. I'll try to post later the book about Philippine Counterstamped Coins penned by the award-winning author Dr.Oropilla.
You are also right in saying "overstrike" as its main intention is to obliterate the letterings / libertarian legends of the host coins through the serrations or shall I say the circulating pattern of border lines. Though there were type II Manila counterstamped coins without the serrations - these types are more scarcer.
And after the dies were changed to smaller ones to a "Golpe de Martillo" method creating cipher F.7.o and Y.II - these types were later called as Countermarked coins.
How I love these specimens bearing rich in history to include the manner this coins are being done through different manual staging process...