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Need Help On This 1899 Liberty Head $20

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 Posted 04/30/2010  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope not but a correct weight would be what I would get before sending it in for grading just to be sure because even though there are copies that look very good their weight is always off on the ones I have seen
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 Posted 05/02/2010  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TDColl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My opinion, and that is all that it is, an opinion, since this is what was requested in the op== is that this coin in not genuine. Looking at the reverse, there is just too much mushiness in the details of the devices and the lettering. Compare it to one on Heritage. This coin appears to be uncirc. or nearly so (details) and yet the "details" just aren't there.
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I was saying it could of been a silver casting before he posted the new pics that show the color.

As for why I said it could of been a sliver casting... didnt we see silver casting of a dollar with an Indian Head cent front and a morgan back a few days ago?... I though that one was a cool coin though :)
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 Posted 05/02/2010  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Americanamafia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would deff get it graded though, and even if it is a fake, and it has been passed down, they might of faked it in real gold (as they did for double eagles for jewelry)... It could still be worth its weight in gold.. about $1000!
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 Posted 05/02/2010  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfwitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I disagree TD.Gold coins,even though we would like to think so,were NEVER stamped with the degree that we have now.They were used as coin.Poker,buying groceries, hookers,etc.The smaller coinage was mostly used but still. I have done a search on this puppy and I believe to have been in a few poker games.
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Here is the reverse on my 1900 type example (ex PCGS MS-61) for comparison.

Need-Help-On-This-1899-Liberty-Head-$20

I don't see an obvious difference in detail/mushiness between mine and the OP's coin.

Halfwitty, are you saying that you used a $20 lib in a Poker game?
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It looks real to me, and it isn't a key date so it is less likely to be counterfeited.

Actually the fact that it isn't a key date probably makes it MORE likely to be counterfeit. when they were counterfeiting US gold by the trunkload in the middle east back in the 1950's and 60's, they faked the common dates, not the keys. Keys got examined closely, commons didn't and they were making their mone on the difference between the bullion value of the gold and roughly double face premium the US gold coins brought. (Double eagle had just under $35 in gold and would sell for $63.)
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 Posted 05/29/2010  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Americanamafia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never knew that conder, makes sense though..
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