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Struck Through Grease Errors

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This is a question that pertains to collecting 'struck thru grease/water' errors. I've included some details about a scenario.

There is a problem-free semi key-date Indian cent, slabbed as EF-40 by NGC with the obverse struck thru grease (indicated on slab). Looking at the coin, I see the reverse is clearly a beautiful EF-40, while the obverse basically looks like a VG-8 because the details are gone because it was Struck Through Grease.

The value of the coin without the error is $200. On one hand, I would consider the value of the coin to be more like $150, because I see a coin with an obverse that is only in VG-8 condition. However, I also note that an error on this date is rare, so it could be worth $250.

What do you all think? I post this as a philosophical question - I realize there is no right or wrong answer - just want to get impressions on this type of error.

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 Posted 04/29/2010  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if the coin has been struck and the error/defect has happened when the coin was struck
( die breaks, Cuds, and in this case, strike throughs), then it is not considered a defect, but an error

not sure if this makes sense or not but....
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 Posted 04/29/2010  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes Adam, it is most definitely an error, I'm just wondering if people consider this particular error to add or detract from the attractiveness of the coin.
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 Posted 04/29/2010  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ohhhh! well, to me, any error is attractive!
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 Posted 04/29/2010  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pinenut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I keep an interesting 2006 struck-through grease in my Jefferson Dansco. I want to have an example of it in there for comparison and it's otherwise not a valuable coin. If I can find an attractive looking error to put in my album in place of a "perfect" coin of the same year, I do it. But I prefer if it is a common year/mm. For keys, I want to have the best pristine example that I can afford.
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 Posted 04/30/2010  06:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorear to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most of the struck thru grease coins I've seen have a letter or number missing or blurred out. Are you saying the entire obverse is struck thru grease? I guess you are if it has vg details and the reverse looks xf. Personally I would think that its a semi-key date with a (minor) error it would lower the value. But, if it covers the entire obverse like I think your saying, and it is certified, there should be an increase in the value.
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 Posted 04/30/2010  06:54 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps 'semi-key date' was a little bit of an underestimation. I decided to go for it and here is my recent purchase. The entire obverse does look like it was struck thru something, so it is pretty interesting. Ended up getting it for VG prices so I couldn't say no. I'm really happy with it.

http://s904.photobucket.com/albums/...t=1877ob.jpg

http://s904.photobucket.com/albums/...t=1877re.jpg
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 Posted 04/30/2010  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big777bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin. I would have to say if your into error coins the value is determined by your desire as there is no real guideline to go by.
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Traditionally I have always heard common errors such as struck thru grease will lower the value of key and semi key dated coins.
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robbudo,
Congrats to you! You've filled a big hole in your incredible collection of Indian cent errors. I remember you saying in one of your other threads how hard it was going to be to find an 1877 with an error on it.
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 Posted 05/01/2010  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big777bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd love to be able to get any decent 1877 let alone an error coin. Robbudo you do have one heck of a set of IHC error coins (can you detect a little bit of envy?) LOL
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