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 Posted 04/29/2010  10:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wontoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Interesting article. Wonder what will happen.[http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...cle1549439/l]
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 Posted 04/29/2010  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Time to overhaul your small cent collection.
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 Posted 04/30/2010  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kyrio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They've been trying to get rid of the penny every year.
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 Posted 04/30/2010  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unless businesses intentionally priced things to take advantage of the Swedish rounding system, things would function fine without the cent. Anything paid for digitally would not need to be rounded.

I only left room for the penny until 2014 in my album.
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 Posted 04/30/2010  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if the RCM will continue to issue collector cents once they are no longer issued for circulation.They've done this with the 50cents.I believe the cent will be gone within three years,the government can't afford to keep producing them at a loss.
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 Posted 04/30/2010  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't mind if they do away with minting pennies, however, I just hope the Government won't recall all cents owned by Canadians? I'll have to surrender my entire large/small cent collection...............................OUCH!

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 Posted 04/30/2010  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realpenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think everything will go up 4 cents. Maybe not a big deal, but go to any store and ask them to give you 4 cents. Business would have to take advantage of the rounding system as shareholders demand it.

Mint employees out of a job. Should need less retail employees if handling pennies takes so much time. Probably need less Brinks employees and other people who deal in coin. So less jobs.

Now for the benefits. The savings will be so noticeable taxes will go down for you. (It's a joke =P they aren't going down). The government is more profitable and will give you less and will still come up with reasons why it needs more tax money. The real coppers were at least as store of value. Goodbye penny!
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 Posted 04/30/2010  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Canada has never demonetized any currency, this policy shows no sign of change. Pulling from circulation is a different matter.

All my shinplasters can be cashed in for a quarter a piece.... would be fine if they traded 1900 shinplasters for 1900 quarters...
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 Posted 04/30/2010  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is horrible. The other day I got shorted 2 cents at a till and gave the employee a dirty look. THEY ADD UP! And that $100 bill remark at the bottom of the comments page was so ignorant. Taxes are already confusing enough to tabulate - why round up or down.. why not just keep prices where they are? I believe that it would confuse people even more, and markups would be insane (PLUS TAX). I can't believe they put the issue to the Senate and not someone who knows what they're doing.
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 Posted 04/30/2010  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To be accurate the issue wasn't "put to the Senate", rather, one Senator moved the motion and had another Senator second it. So far there is no political party pushing it, just that one particular member.

I'm with Libertad on this one, I don't want to see the penny abolished. Consider:

Say my purchase adds up to $9.76, they round it to $9.80. Then they apply tax. That comes to $11.07 (in Ontario), which will be rounded a second time to $11.10. With pennies, I'd only be paying $11.03. That's seven cents in this transaction. If I make 3 transactions per day (gas, lunch, coffee, newspaper, coin rollers), that's $6.51 every month, or over $78 per year.

It will be in the company's interest to do the rounding twice, and it is foolish to think that a large percentage will not take advantage of it.
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 Posted 04/30/2010  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that things should already include the sales tax, like in Europe. What a hassle!
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 Posted 04/30/2010  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For that I disagree. I like to know how much the government is gouging me every time I make a purchase.
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 Posted 04/30/2010  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO, the cent, nickel, both should just stop minting them, and let the remaining coinage in circulation slowly diminish, to it's end. The prices today are ten times as high as before, and without the cent, and nickelfigured in anymore, the dime will be the smallest coin in circulation, because the cent, and nickel will solowly disappear. (hoarding for melt). It will be a battle between the recyclers, and collectors, as to who gets what! Get rid of the Hundred? Yes, All of them , the good, the bad, and the "ugly, one dollar bill. It will in effect amount to a ten % increase in prices, without making a satatement to that effect. Not to mention not having to haul a gag fuill of small change to pay that "9/10" everywhere posted.
Someone mentioned getting rid of the 'senators", along with the cent. Good idea, but I would modify it to where the "ELECTORAL COLLEGE" be abolished! That way My vote, and YIOUR viote would elect a president, not the "select few' who are vulnerable to ($$$$$$),pressure from the outside! Along that same line, make the presidential term six years, with NO RELECTION, and limit the term in the senate, and house toten. No more lifetime jobe there, and ( taking their "self granted pay raises, home with them (should they retire and go home). Let them have the same health care system everyone eklse has<(or does not have), and get their Social Security, same as you and I , based on their income. Dream on, dreamer.....
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 Posted 04/30/2010  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@livingdinasaur....

We don't have an Electoral College nor do we have an elected Senate. Senate abolition here is a real topic with real roots. It may not happen but the discussion is nonetheless serious. Guess what? We don't even have a President.
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 Posted 04/30/2010  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kniceone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting article. However IMHO I want to retain the one cent piece and contrary to what everyone else here is saying I can and do use one cent pieces every day in the parking meter. Yes - here where I live the parking meter still takes 1 cent coins and I get 1 minute of parking time per cent. There is no limit as to how many pennies I may deposit. If I'm willing to stand and deposit 60 cents - I will get my hour of parking. Another use - raising money. A lot of places up here in my neck of the wood are having pennie drives - raising money for charity. Not many people object to being asked for their pennies - it's just small change right? Wrong - those pennies all add up over time to great big dollars. So for me - I'd like to keep the penny and continue using them for parking and charity and of course for collecting!
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 Posted 04/30/2010  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
splatto: I suspect the rounding would be done just once (after the tax is added) to get the final total. Taken to the extreme, what, are they going to round each item before adding? I sure hope not!

Personally, I want the penny gone so that I don't have to get my magnet out every year!
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