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1983-P Jefferson Nickel With Major Die Clash Marks

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 Posted 05/06/2010  10:30 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add La loutre to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here's one of my nicest finds regarding US coins in circulation (found among my Canadian pocket change).
It's a 1983P nickel with major die clash marks.

Here's a superposition "reverse on obverse", to help you see where to look for clash marks.
1983-P-Jefferson-Nickel-With-Major-Die-Clash-Marks

On the obverse of my coin, you can see a few marks, especially behind the head & neck:
1983-P-Jefferson-Nickel-With-Major-Die-Clash-Marks

Now here's the other superposition "obverse on reverse":
1983-P-Jefferson-Nickel-With-Major-Die-Clash-Marks

Now see how strong the clash was between these dies. You can almost see the entire Jefferson profile:
1983-P-Jefferson-Nickel-With-Major-Die-Clash-Marks

Keep up with your good work! Being mostly involved in canadian coins, I don't come around too often, but still I've found precious infos on US coins here.



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 Posted 05/06/2010  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a very strong clash on the reverse, I don't think I have ever seen one with that much of the bust outline
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 Posted 05/06/2010  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a nice one! I haven't seen to many Jefferson clashes on both sides. Seems like it's usually one side or the other.
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I've have images of the strongest one I've looked at so far. Yours is nice though. I wish I had found the one I'm posting here. But it is the strongest I've seen before:
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...lash_OBV.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...lash_REV.jpg

This one is a high dollar coin.

La loutre's is still a nice example though. A keeper in my book!
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 Posted 05/06/2010  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DylansDad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I've got a 1980 about identical to yours...pretty hard to miss when they come up.
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 Posted 05/06/2010  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add La loutre to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your comments & welcome!

coop, you're right, that die clash you showed is just WILD! I surrender...

I found a few minor clashes on Lincoln pennies and on some dimes as well, but that's about it for US coins.
For now...
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That's a nice coin with evidence of a strong die clash. Not that I consider myself an "old timer" :-) Some of us soon to be "old timers" used to see these called "flaming roof" nickels because of the effect of the clash above MONTICELLO on the reverse of the coin.

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Was curious. Maybe I used to know this, but now that I'm
senile ? :) Anyway, Is the composition of the die materials
different for U.S. nickel dies than the other coin dies ?
Being that nickel is so much harder than copper, silver etc.
That had to be a powerful hit for those clash marks on Coop's
pics.
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 Posted 05/09/2010  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrcoinman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grea tspecimen of a die clash, a pretty strong one I must say
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 Posted 05/09/2010  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add La loutre to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks foundinrolls, I didn't know about the "flaming roof" expression.

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Indian1: The dies are the same material as the ones for other denominations. It's true the nickel/copper planchets cause more wear than the clad ones and the cents are probably the softest with the zinc composition. But on the coin I posted images of, I speculate that the clash may have happened several times in a row to make the clash that visible. Just my speculation though.
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Thanks Coop
Maybe on your coin/pics. the operator went for coffee.
No auto shut off on the press :)
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Or the bin may have run out of planchets?
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Here is an edited version of La Loutre's images I added to my educational file. Thanks for the images.
1983-P-Jefferson-Nickel-With-Major-Die-Clash-Marks
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One heck of a clash!
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