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1984 D DDO #1 I Believe

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 Posted 05/14/2010  9:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 909records to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
going thru some stuff and I think this is the 84 d DDO #1

what do think ?
thanks
co

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 Posted 05/14/2010  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rbailey32 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
my thoughts looks like die chatter.
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Without a doubt this is a doubled die, and without a doubt it is NOT 1984D-1DO-001. The mintmark is in the wrong place. This is likely a new discovery.
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 Posted 05/14/2010  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 909records to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
can I send it to you to look at coopercoins ?

thanks
co
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 Posted 05/14/2010  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See it for yourself. This is my site's image overlaid on top of your lower image with all the points of the date matching perfectly. The mintmark on your coin is clearly northeast of the mintmark on 1984D-1DO-001. It's impossible for one die to strike mintmarks in two different places. Nice find.

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Send an email to me please.
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 Posted 05/14/2010  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 909records to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for all your help and I just emailed you
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Nice job on the score 909! (Sounds like Maxwell Smart! Right, 99!)

Cool to find a doubled die that's been dormant for 26 years!
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 Posted 05/15/2010  02:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 909records to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks scooby
will know for sure once coppercoins has it in hand .
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what I'm really wondering is how the doubling is the same but the mint mark is in a different spot I have been looking at the two and my coins mint mark is closer to the date and it looks like the one on coppercoins the mint mark is tilted a little . is that normal to have two different dies with what looks like the same doubling ?
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That's a good question, and I'm not even going to pretend like I know the answer. I'm sure Chuck (or any of our other numerous pros) will follow up with an answer.

I have way too much to learn still. I know the mintmarks were added after the dies were made, so maybe a working hub was doubled? Then created working dies that the mintmarks were added to? Just speculating.
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amazing find.
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The process by which dies are made is repeated step fpr step with every one of the thousands of dies made per year. The chances that very similar doubling could appear on two dies in one year is actually greater than you might imagine. I would doubt that through microscopic study it would be found that these two different dies indeed have identical doubling - it's just close enough that it would be very hard to detect with the unaided eye...as was the position of the mintmark, which was made much more obvious as being different with the help of an overlay.
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thanks for all the replys
and thanks you answering that coppercoins you for sure have the eye because I thought I had #1 DDO and you picked that up by looking at a pic
that the mint mark was in a different position amazing!!
co
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 Posted 05/20/2010  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it's new. I have to check but I think that I have two of these. It's still a very nice find.

I checked and I have two.

Here is one of them. I did overlays and they are identical.


Bill

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