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This Lincoln Is Driving Me Crazy

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I have been picking this coin up and putting it back down for several days now, trying to avoid posting it. I keep comparing it to other '99's and it just looks different.

There seems to be way more going on with the hair and beard than normal. Is this just way more detail than I'm used to seeing?

I think I keep seeing double all through the hair and beard. I keep trying to use end points like the hair on the back of his neck, and the lower jaw line, because I really get lost in the ear and above area.

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 Posted 05/23/2010  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It maybe an EDS coin. As the die ages the devices get weaker. On most the examples I found in the last few minutes the devices on the beard was weak. So it may have been hubbed by a new hub or a stronger hubbing to make the devices stronger. I would mark it for now and see what LIB looks like in a close up on that area. Looking forward to images of this area. I don't see any doubling on the areas in question, just stronger devices.
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Scooby,
Pulled out my tube of 1999-P and looked at a number of mine. The only difference I can see is that you have a very well struck coin. A lot of the detail that is not present on most coins from die or strike weakness is showing on your coin. The best example I have is very similar to yours.
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Oh, BTW, anything interesting on the reverse?
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 Posted 05/23/2010  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably nothing to much out of the ordinary. LOL
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Nothing on the reverse like that, coop! Or a Wide AM Jim, if that's what you are asking.

Look at the first and third pic behind his ear, maybe it's just Machine Doubling, but wouldn't that be unusual in the center of the coin? And that little hair curl on his neck bugs me, too.

I don't see anything going on with LIBERTY, but I'll get a pic anyway, because you guys often see things I don't.
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Check other examples for the hair curl. It is on most of the examples I checked this morning. The reason for the LIB area close up to see if it a EDS coin, which I think it is.
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You don't think the back of his hair looks doubled?

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That was a little more than I was thinking of on the reverse, Coop. Still, anything is possible.
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Possibly slight Machine Doubling.
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It is an early die state, well struck coin. There is some Machine Doubling on the back of the head and the word LIBERTY.

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 Posted 05/24/2010  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If well-struck examples are this unusual, it's definitely a keeper, Scooby
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