Detecting A Cap And Ray 8R Forgery

The 1833 Pi is real - it may have been shaved a bit around the edge to remove some silver at one time. There are clear file lines on the edge and the edge is rounded.

The 1842 Zs comes in two varieties - made by different authorities. The first type with the round tail was a Government of Mexico issue made to high standards. The second type square tail was made by Anglo-Americana de Casas de Monedas (Manning and Marshall) and used equally high standards. They were an export manufacturer serving US interests.

So the range quoted is for the 1842 Zs a HIGH STANDARD issue.

That is exactly what I am thinking. If you do one coin that is not much but if you are a merchant with access to 100s of coins and you take 0.25 grams from every coin you handle you end up with the silver from ONE COIN for every 100 you do. Good side job for a kid. A dollar (8 Reales) was a weeks salary for the typical worker in 1833.

SWAMPERBOB !


Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I seriously think I may have located the 1833 8R San Luis Potosi contemporary counterfeit that you have been looking for!

I hope you caught this one in time before the auction ran out!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/27082288461....m1423.l2648


Looks like two periods before the assayer's initials and most telling of all, the eagles tail is too round to be a original, I spent a good time looking at this one before coming to the conclusion that it is a contemp counterfeit not listed in Ridell's book and I don't think it is a unknown original variety.

What do you think Swamperbob?