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 Posted 06/01/2010  10:08 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I track every auction involving Mexican coins every day on ebay. In the process, I have noticed a new trend which is just a scam that ebay allows.

A seller posts a real coin with a starting bid of $0.01 to $0.99 and no reserve. I first noticed it with an original 2 Reale but as I checked I noticed it occurs in many places. The scam is the shipping price which is $200 up. So I wrote to a few of them and asked if it was a typo. I got only one answer back but it was brief - The shipping charge is correct."

So I checked ebay rules and found YOU CAN NOT COMPLAIN. That is offensive because it is intended to pray on the unsuspecting. I know people should check the shipping rate, but most people expect basic honesty and a rate of $200 is simply dishonest.

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 Posted 06/01/2010  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So I checked ebay rules and found YOU CAN NOT COMPLAIN.


Love to see where you read that. That's one of the easiest types of infractions to get removed on ebay because it cheats them of fees. It's only a few clicks from the "Report item" link on any listing and you're done. Standard report option.
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What I read said that ebay would not get involved in a dispute over postal rates or shipping costs. Perhaps the angle you are pointing out would work - avoiding ebay fees - that would get their attention. That is their money then.

I just tried to look up the sellers I had noted and I find that the old sort option by bid plus postage seems to no longer be there. Neither is the option to display the postage rate when searching closed listings.

Perhaps I am just missing it, but I will try to report the next one I see. Thanks for the angle to use.
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 Posted 06/01/2010  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What I had read a long time ago (don't remember exactly when, or where) is that people were doing that to keep the selling fees down on pricey stuff. There was quite a bit of it. Sell a two hundred dollar item for five bucks with a $200 shipping fee and the auction fees are a lot less because they are calculated on the ending price of the auction. Supposedly ebay was cracking down on this practice because it was simply a way to subvert the selling fees. I've seen it a little nowadays, but not like a few years ago. Perhaps ebay has too many other "fish to fry" these days. Might be worth an email to ebay, I dunno.

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Perhaps the angle you are pointing out would work - avoiding ebay fees - that would get their attention. That is their money then.


That's not the angle, Bob. The choice is "Excessive shipping costs" .. That's why I say I'd like to see where you read it, because it's flat out not allowed.
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Ok I didn't see that one but when I spot one of these auctions again I will try.
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 Posted 06/01/2010  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fees like $200 is a bit to much, way to much! But as a prospective buyer you have the option of just moving on. I look at it like another coin like the one this person is trying to sell using questionable methods will surly come along again. And when I bid I work the shipping fee into the equation of my bid when at all possible.
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 Posted 06/01/2010  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is exactly what I do, but my concern is for the novice who does not check and starts out with negative feedback as a result. I really can't envision anyone paying $200 for shipping under any circumstance.
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I would't have a problem paying that for shipping, if the total cost of the item is still within what I want to pay for it. If the seller screws epay out of their fees, it does not bother me.
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 Posted 06/02/2010  04:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twincam_04 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i have seen this used many times in the past, it's not as bad as it used to be, but what if you're not happy with the "item" and are offered a refund - less shipping?
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 Posted 06/02/2010  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found one of the listings and just reported it to ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...190401334532

This coin is most likely a forgery and the seller is NEW - all sorts of red flags here.

Here is a second which I DID NOT report - I think it is a typo and have written the seller. I will watch and if there is no correction I will report the listing and watch the seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1906-High-Grade...em53e1ad172a
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