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1927 Lincoln Dark Toner

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This coin is impossible to capture, I give, these pics are as good I'm gonna get. The coin is very dark and there's a lot of odd reflections coming off the surface that make it look like there's lint or something on it. While it was dusty with 2x2 debris, I rinsed it with acetone and dried it with canned air. Toners are just hard as heck to photograph!


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 Posted 06/04/2010  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
tough coin, its more than likely MS-60 something but the eye appeal at least to me is limited.

as dark as the coin is its near impossible for me to see any marks to be certian of a grade.
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 Posted 06/04/2010  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks a LOT better in hand. The reverse is dark plumb in color. My toner photography skills suck.
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Let me make it easier to see with a couple angled shots and stronger light. This should make it easier. Probably too easy, I was trying to present a bit of a challenge. I hate putting these shots up because they do not represent the true color of the coin....at all. Strong light and certain angles cause a coin to be misreprented in terms of color.


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 Posted 06/05/2010  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorear to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin, I'll say AU-50.
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I think the coin is unc, like I said the toning is a detraction for me as dark and irregular as it is MS 61-62

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 Posted 06/06/2010  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb1877 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking AU55.

Had it not been for the angled shots, I would have guessed it was MS.
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Not MS, I see some contact marks on the cheek and jaw......AU55. Nice toning!
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I see blue highlights on the cheek and jaw but nothing on the ear, I find that curious.

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 Posted 06/07/2010  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would grade AU55 if it's not deemed as cleaned. I would have to see the coin in person to make that determination.
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I still don't see any wear on the coin. But the consensus is what it is.

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I understand what you're saying metalman. These sliders are TOUGH but I try to be conservative. If look at the Lincolns on the PCGS photo guide, this could be a MS-62/63...but I don't fully agree with their examples.

Let's call it MS-55!
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 Posted 06/08/2010  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tumbleweedtrumpet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that rub or toning on his cheek/hair?
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Rub

On these sliders I use the lapel as a confirmation of rub. The area closest to the tie is higher than the lapel area by the shoulder and when I see it extend to the area by the neck and shoulder, I consider it AU.

The thing that makes these tough is when the reverse shows virtually no rub. In my experience the TPG's will cop out and call it AU-58 when this happens.
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