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SLQ are one of my favorite coins, though I don't collect them...now the strike is so DA$%^&m nice why would it be AU?or suddenly MS64..........?? but I have heard that 1917 was known for very nice strikes?which would mean that each year has its own criteria? that seams out of the ordinary as far as grading standards......SO SLQ guru's school us please!!
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SLQ are one of my favorite coins, though I don't collect them...now the strike is so DA$%^&m nice why would it be AU?or suddenly MS64..........?? but I have heard that 1917 was known for very nice strikes?which would mean that each year has its own criteria? that seams out of the ordinary as far as grading standards......SO SLQ guru's school us please!


Strike cannot bring an AU coin up to the MS level. Strike does play a role in grade but that mostly is in effect in the higher grade levels. Rub and wear bring a coin down to MS. Given that 1917 SLQ's generally are very well struck, strike usually is not a factor in grading for all 1917 Type 1 SLQ's. I agree with Johnny that I see slight rub in the head and torso area, which would bring the coin down to AU level. Different standards must be applied for many coins within the same series.

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AU?or suddenly MS64..........?


As odd as it sounds, MS64 is, in a sense, only one grade point away from AU58. Every MS grade (even MS68) is only the slightest rub away from being AU.

I've already pointed out the slight friction that I believe makes this AU. Those lines could be cabinet slide marks (from being in a collection), or even a collector lightly wiping down the coins as they sat in the cabinet. Whether or not that would still be a MS coin, I don't know.

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You raise an interesting point Wheatguy. A coin that looks in mint condition, but has a couple of marks due to scratches in a cabinet or a light dusting, and has never actually been circulated should not be tagged AU. Of course no one can prove how those marks were made, but it could have technically never circulated. Makes a big difference in the value AU58 to MS64.
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A scratch in a cabinet as you stated would keep the coin in the MS range. Rub and wear are used to indicate circulation, which is relatively easy to spot if you are somewhat good at grading.

I also agree with Steve.
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