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Valued Member
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Hi guys, Could you guys help me with the variations of this Morgan? As for grading it has a nice shine, with the scuffs I am guessing MS63?    |
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Bedrock of the Community
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those big hits may keep it from going 63 in my opinion. I think it has a shot at 62 though. I am not sure what variations you are asking about but if you could be more specific I may be able to answer your question a little better. Since its in the grading section I am guessing you just want a grade opinion and I think it has a shot at 62 don't know if it will make 63 with those big hits in the focal area on her cheek
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This looks like VAM 195A, there should be a diagonal line rhrough are and top of T in LIBERTY, and a broken D in Dollar on the reverse. I'd grade it MS-63. |
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Valued Member
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My coin book has a bunch of feather variations noted. I was wondering about those. However the VAM 195A is interesting. When I loupe the T in liberty I don't see a line at the top of the T. |
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Here is a detail of Liberty for your viewing pleasure.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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the line under the 8 tells you its a VAM-84. The Broken D on DOLLAR and weak L in LIBERTY also confirms this of course along with the long nock
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Pillar of the Community
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Didn't have time to check on it yesterday, with the missing nostril I though it might be vam84, but I also noticed the "lip clashing" and your photo's hide alot of the possible clashing, check and see if you have or can photo a close up of the neck, and under the tail feathers.....I suspect you just may have a VAM 84A with an E CLASH! let us know!!........Gene |
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I am brand spanking new, my maiden voyage. I have a number of 78's and several are VAMs, (so iam told) I enjoy trying to find new ones, and see what I am supposed to be seeing according to the coin expert, it's pretty darn over whelming, but interesting all the same...My ROOKIE question is, has there ever been a multiple VAM classification on a single coin, or can there be? |
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I guess your main question would be, are the multiple examples any any given VAM? like yours.....the answer is NO... all thought there are many with similar features, the flaws are within the die itself, which imprints its own uniqueness on the coin.....and can not be errased but confirmed |
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I have a number of 78's and several are VAMs, (so iam told) Every Morgan and Peace dollar is a VAM. As for this VAM-84, it is part of the B1 reverse Morgans and is one of the most common to find even in super high grades (the ones in my collection are MS-65 but have seen unattributed MS-66 but couldn't afford it at the time). VAM's 84 and 83 are the most common B1 reverse to find and do not bring any premium over any other 1878 Morgan of the same grade. There are actually only 2 B1 reverse morgans that people will tell you are worth a premium and that is the VAM-70 (A TOP-100 coin) and the VAM-79 (A HOT-50 coin) but I have found VAM-80-82 sell for a small premium over the 83-84 as well especially in higher grades |
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I hope this is not a stupid question, but I have never gotten a REAL clear answer to it..When is an ERROR an ERROR and when is a VAM A VAM ? I know that there is a list of VAM's I have never seen a list or catalogue of error coins, I know that there are well known error coins but nothing that indicates the difference between an error or a VAM. Once again I hope that this is not a stupid question but I am pretty new at collecting and I have friends and family that have asked me what the difference is and why there isn't VAM's with other coins, and I just don't know how to answer them without tripping all over my tongue. I appreciate your time and input......................ThanksXXXXXXXX |
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Every Morgan is a VAM and this is just a variety where every coin struck by those particular dies are the same. They are not the same VAM number because the number changes with the dies, that is why there are so many different VAM's because they change with each die marriage. A error is where something else happens and not every coin that is struck with that die marriage are the same only the ones after the error occurs and there may be only a hand full of errors where every coin struck with the same dies would be the same variety even if there is an error that occurred during the minting process. So it can be one variety ( VAM) and still have errors like Cuds or off center. Varieties and errors are entirely different |
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see if you can get a close up picture of the tail feathers and the bow. thanks...
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