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Looking For An Israel Coin Dating Guide

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 Posted 06/18/2010  8:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jays-Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I always have issues with dating Israeli coins. The Krause shows dates, but the dates on the coins look a lot different and it seems to take a lot of imagination to figure it out. In particular, what is the difference between 1964 and 1967, or 1974 and 1977, or 1984 and 1987, or 1994 and 1997, and 2004 and 2007? That digit looks so similar. Is there a site with pictures of these dates on actual coins?
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 Posted 06/19/2010  03:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thai-vic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't know if the link below will work but I recently posted some files to help date coins with unusual number characters/date systems (including Israel).

Hope this helps.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/world...llery/files/
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Your problem arises because the Israeli number system uses letters of the alphabet to denote numbers on coins. The letter used to represent 4 is a daled #1491; and the letter used to represent 7 is a zayin #1494; To anyone not reading Hebrew these letters can look very similar
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Sorry but in my reply I typed a hebrew daled and zayin which showed up in the preview but when I submitted the reply it came up as some code number. I do not know how to fix it [
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You're in luck! There is an online Hebrew year conversion tool I found, scroll down to the bottom of it: http://www.collectionstudio.com/en/...ator/hebrew/
. (I had that same problem with a phased-out 10 Agarot coin). I'm a novice and take any coin I can get but the coins that really thrill me are coins written in another alphanumeric language. It's a breath of success when I finally "decode" the coin.
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Is there a site with pictures of these dates on actual coins?

We can supply the pictures.

Here's a pic I made illustrating the difference between the two letters Angielczyk names, which can also be seen on Jedi's link, as they appear on actual coins (a 1977 5 agorot and 1974 10 agorot):

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The top stroke is longer on the daled, and it's horizontal. Most noticeably, it's asymmetrically balanced - the left "arm" is longer than the right one. On the zayin the top strike is tilted slightly (though this will be impossible to see except at high mag) but it's short and symmetrical.

For me, the numbers 5 and 8 can be even more challenging to discern - the only difference shown in both Krause and the illustration in Jedi's link is a small gap between two of the strokes, and on a worn coin it can be hard to say whether the gap is there or not. Here's an illustration of these two numerals as they appear on circulated aluminium coins (a 1 agorah 1975 and 10 agorot 1978):

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I've found a better means of discerning them, particularly for these aluminium coins from the 1970s, is the location of the tiny "serif" where those two strokes meet - for heh (5), it's at the side, for cheth (8), it's at the top.

At least, I assume my interpretation is correct.
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Thanks all, these links and pics help.
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