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50 Pesos 37.5 Grams Oro Puro 1821-1925

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 Posted 06/20/2010  7:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bobo32 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My dad gave me this coin about 20 years ago. I'd like to know how to estimate its value and also how to sell it if I wanted to. I am a complete novice and don't know if I'd be taken advantage of by walking in cold to a coin store. thanks.
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 Posted 06/20/2010  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fcrazo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's worth basically melt. These are considered Bullion coins.
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 Posted 06/20/2010  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobo32 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so if gold is at $4o/gram, I've got $1500 or thereabout in value? Is there a reason I should expect any coin dealer to offer substantially less? Obviously he's going to need room for profit, but how much should that generally reduce the cash value? thanks.
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 Posted 06/20/2010  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...so if gold is at $40/gram, I've got $1500 or thereabout in value?


Yes, you are correct. I recently sold one of these coins to APMEX for 98% of melt value. I had to pay to ship it to them also though.

I figure a Mexican 50 Peso gold at 1.2 troy ounces although it's a touch over that amount (0.006 over). So at current melt you're looking at $1257 X 1.2 = $1,508.

I would not take less than 97% of that value or $1463 minimum sell price. APMEX will pay you $1,484 right now. Figure $15 for insured shipping and you net $1469.
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 Posted 06/20/2010  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin is a "Centenario" and should bring a slight premium over the melt value when you sell it. Your coin happens to be an "original" (dated 1926), and does have a slight numismatic valueas well. The restrkies are all dated 1821-1947. That is a beautiful coin. For a quick price it is 1.2057 oz of gold. With gold at $1257.40 as of Friday close, you have $1516 in gold value.
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 Posted 06/20/2010  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a word of caution, I have seen three forgeries of this coin recently in Raleigh, NC. The increase in gold value is bringing out many old forgeries.

One was a gold plated brass copy using very well copied dies - it was thicker than an original and had a density near 9.0. Some of the features were blunted so it looked like a worn die pair.

The second was a cast copy that was substantially underweight. It was a base metal forgery with a gold paint applied. Probably dated back to the 1950s.

The third was a copy struck in debased gold from what appeared to be impact transfer dies. The central design high spots were very weak as if it was a low pressure strike. It came in a fake plastic holder from a second tier TPR. When we broke it out - it was also light weight and had a plain edge. It contained just under 50% of the correct amount of gold.

So my comment is BE CAREFUL. Not all 50 Peso coins sitting in 50 year old collections are real.

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 Posted 06/22/2010  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Although it says "Oro Puro" on it, it is only 90% gold.
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 Posted 06/22/2010  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Libertad, the coin states it contains 37.5 grms of "oro puro" which is correct, it has 37.5 grms of pure gold. You are correct that the coin itself is only 90% gold, that is because the coin weighs 41.6666 grms.
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 Posted 06/23/2010  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So it is, you're right. It's so easy to overlook these things.
Edit: In my Krause, the bullion coins don't tell you how thick they are. That, in my opinion, would help greatly and would give another tool to the counter-counterfeiter: the caliper.
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