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Bummer about the .92 (again) New Mismatist. Your photos are excellent ..... and I see no evidence of a 'cleaning' ..... but like you am still learning all the details of this hobby. Similar to your Vancouver Half ...... why? Wish I had the sure for answer for you ...... but I don't. Best I can say is that TPG opinions of raw coins are subject to personal bias and an occasional bad day. I agree that this lovely Morgan should be cracked out and re-submitted to another TPG ...... shoot .... the next time PCGS itself might grade MS64. Keep us posted on what you decide and how it turns out ...... we are all pulling for you. David |
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Pillar of the Community
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92 - Cleaned  Boy, I didn't see that coming...  |
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Valued Member
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Wow!! Great pictures. I only see just the one bag mark on her cheek and maybe a few small ones on the obverse and the reverse looks about the same. Hope it comes back at least MS65 for you. Should be a nice coin. Let us know.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think you got robbed on that one.
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Given that PCGS saw the coin in hand, I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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I've never said that PCGS were wrong. As I said, I can't speak for what happened to this coin before it came into my family's possession 60-odd years ago. What I would like would be to gain a better understanding of exactly WHAT they're seeing on this coin that I cannot. I don't honestly care one way or the other whether or not this coin has actually been cleaned. But if it has been cleaned, I would like to know what signs there are present that indicate it. At least that way I'll be better equipped in the future to look for those things in both coins I own and coins I might purchase.
The grade is incidental. The knowledge is everything.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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This is the first I've seen of this thread and winced a bit when I saw the pic.
The cheek/lower neck and obv. 7:00 field have a polished, or rubbed appearance. The details are certainly MS64 and this is a better date with only 750,000 minted, so PCGS might have been tough on it.
Estimated Mint State survival on this coin is only 41,000 pieces. It would be worthwhile for you to get an in-hand review from a local expert.
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Valued Member
United States
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Will do, bherring. There's a local dealer whose opinion I trust, and I'll get the coin in his hands soon.
Just out of curiosity, if what you see is a sign of cleaning, why would it be solely noticeable in only those areas and not more prevalent on the rest of the coin?
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Bedrock of the Community
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...why would it be solely noticeable in only those areas... I'm no expert and a really don't know. The reverse looks great. The obverse area from the nose to ear and downward looks "thumbed" or "rubbed". The luster and frost are disturbed. I bet that is what got the coin bagged. This is a high dollar piece that might make it into a problem-free holder eventually. Good Luck! |
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Thanks for the info, b. I'll resubmit and update the thread with results.
Cheers to all who've responded.
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