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These 4 coins I bought several years ago at my local flea market, didn't know what I was getting into at the time. I paid 20 dollars for all 4, believing that it was silver but of course it isn't. For a guy who can read Chinese, I feel dumb not checking the writing against the English translation first for the first coin shown here. All coins weight lighter than listed in Krause except for the last one which weights heavier.     And no year 24 mint or listed in the world coin catalog either, but the last coin weight is heavier than list of the other years. |
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 I had a similar experience in Cambodia a few years ago.  |
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And no year 24 mint or listed in the world coin catalog either, but the last coin weight is heavier than list of the other years. You have to add eleven (11) to the year inscription of most of Republic of China (Taiwan). 1912 was the year when (the old) Nationalist China started to exist formally. ETA(mod): wrong number. Edited by fireandice556
07/05/2010 8:15 pm
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Year 24 Sun Yat Sen Dollars are not real. The real coins exist in year 21 -Birds over Junk, and Years 22 and 23- without birds. Are these thicker than the other coins? They do not look like real silver, probably a silver wash over possibly copper.
The first coin has the Chinese text "Shen Si Province", and the English text "Hu-peh", the top 3 show the weakness around the edge with the denticles/dots, plus other assorted errors- Poor Chinese non-silver counterfeits, I would say.
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I got a few of them also. I bought them at a yard sale. I took the risk because the guy wanted $1.00 each. I thought 4.00 was worth the risk and maybe one is real or made of silver.
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There was buckets load of these down at Chinatown in NY where all the tourists would visit the street vendors year back, now there aren't any left out in the open.
Don't know who shut these out, and I say is a good thing.
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Actually, Sun Yat-sen dollars with the year 24 do exist.
According to a Chinese reference (jian ming qian bi ci dian "A Concise Coin Dictionary"), these coins were struck during 1935. However, this was the same year that the government decided to abandon the silver standard in favor of legal tender notes issued by national banks and, therefore, none of these coins were released for circulation.
The dictionary includes an image of the coin which is the same at the year 23 issue with the exception of the year being 24.
Since these coins were never officially released they are very rare. Using the Chinese scale of rarity of 1-15 with 1 being the rarest, the dictionary has the year 24 coin as a "3" (yi xia).
The dictionary also shows a "zhong yuan" (five mao or "50 cents") version of the coin which is smaller and which has a rarity of "2" (yi zhong).
Gary
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Looks like coinsnpaper shifted the years by one. According to Krause years 23 and 24 had no birds over sails. Also it mentions that 30 million "Junk dollars" were restruck in the US in 1949, all dated yr.23 (1933).
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In this thread I shared a couple of my Chinese counterfeits similar to your first one. |
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Good info manymore!
Do you have a picture of the book or link to it?
I want to see if my relatives can check this out for me.
Google it! And found it in simplified Chinese version, will have to order, only way to find out.
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07/06/2010 12:08 pm
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svslav,
Yours look better than mine!
Will have to take out my digital scale next time when I go Chinese coin hunting, but would be rare that I will do it any time in the future.
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Posted 07/05/2010 01:49 am
